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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:55 am
by LoudmouthLee
That's awesome. And makes me completely backpedal on my dislike of the who claim.
Much more later. Taking my daughter to the doctor.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:56 am
by Empking
Vote Count Eighteen: I hate beans
Zephyrus (3) - Juls, Belisarius, Cho
Kagami (3) - geists, FormerFish, LoudmouthLee
FormerFish (2) - Kagami, Nobody Special
Not Voting: Zephyrus, MTD, Lowercase
With Eleven alive, it is Six to lynch
(expired on 2014-05-17 13:57:32)
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:56 am
by Lowercase
I don't think my role and flavor are related.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:56 am
by geists
In post 421, Kagami wrote: In post 415, geists wrote: In post 413, LoudmouthLee wrote:Your role changed, and you did nothing N1, and you won't claim? Your character already claimed, and it's seriously questionable at best. The only thing we know for sure is that your slot had knowledge of the goons alignment. I'm leaning heavily towards mafia bus.
We're not leaning that direction. We feel pretty confident that scum are in {Kagami, NS, Zeph}.
Why has fish left suspicion-land?
Because I like his day 2 play so far. Also ~meta~. And discussion with Nati about our reads and impressions of the gamestate.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:57 am
by Formerfish
I'm not sure how exactly to go about asking questions without revealing too much. Needless to say, I question the validity of your claim.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 8:59 am
by Juls
OK so there is a role altering ability in game. But you say you didn't use it thus you didn't use it on who...correct? And it is a passing mechanism. You don't have to answer in-thread but you should find out from Empking that if you give it to someone and you die in the night, does it pass on or does it die with you. I think that is important. Because if your action is higher in the night order resolution than the kills then that thing should keep moving. Again, don't answer in thread, but you should find out from Empking.
Now, I am leary of why Who "changed" if NS hasn't used it at all. If NS had used it but used it on someone else I would suspect a redirect. Wasn't there something like this in Empking's first game? Was it cult like? I need to go back and look at that game.
Sorry for the stream-of-consciousness post.
P-edit: Hmmm, why do you not question Who's changing now LML?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:00 am
by Lowercase
NS, if you used it on me, do you think I might become a gunsmith again?
NS says the word "alternate" my guess is that he is the inverse of whatever hit me N0.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:03 am
by Lowercase
At this rate, I think there is a lot more role weirdness than I initially expected. Imo, mass claim is not such a bad idea anymore.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:05 am
by Juls
Yeah I think I am going to relent as well. There is some shenanigans going on here...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:06 am
by Juls
*are some.
I fail at grammar.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:07 am
by Juls
Shall we random and then popcorn or do we want to start with someone specific?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:12 am
by LoudmouthLee
I spoke quickly. I feel better about the who claim if there's another role changing aspect in the build.
NS claimed a role that is completely traceable. He uses action and we know if he's being legitimate.
I'm a vanilla townie. When I replaced in, I was told that the previous person gave in a name. Since I am unfamiliar, I can look it up and furnish it if necessary.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:13 am
by Nobody Special
In post 429, Formerfish wrote:I'm not sure how exactly to go about asking questions without revealing too much. Needless to say, I question the validity of your claim.
Well, let me see if I can get a description approved by Empking, and I'll try to be more forthcoming.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:17 am
by Juls
We all gave in names LML.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:18 am
by LoudmouthLee
I know, but might it be helpful for everyone to know what the names are? Perhaps to spot a pattern?
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:20 am
by Kagami
K, I'll pretend LML is popcorning to me.
I'm vanilla, picked a JA character. Role PM is very plain and makes no mention or reference to my pick or any other flavor. Would appreciate being zapped if zapping gives PRs. Thought you were the vig, NS.
popcorn to fishy.
p-edit: I think claiming source (GoT or JA) might be useful, actual name seems unnecessary and poss dangerous.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:22 am
by Juls
I see LML, I agree.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:23 am
by LoudmouthLee
The magical non existent vig? Don't worry. He's next to Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:23 am
by Juls
Kagami, please indicate your character(s) you sent in.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:24 am
by Formerfish
I would like to wait for NS to post, seeing as I've already started this line of questioning, I'd like to finish it.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:25 am
by Kagami
You're ridiculous. You've decided that Who-slot is town, and hence an actual N0 gunsmith, but persist that there couldn't be a vig.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:28 am
by Kagami
Not sure it's a good idea, Juls. Empking is familiar with Mind Screw II; I'm extremely leery of deathnote-like abilities here.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:29 am
by Juls
Fair enough. I think it is a good idea but I won't push the issue.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:30 am
by Nobody Special
Okay, here we go: my ability changes the target into a thing/creature/being from another dimension. (I do not know if this affects alignment.)
I can use it on dead players, and it *may* bring them back to life. (I can also use it on myself.)
And the passing happens prior to regular kills.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:30 am
by Kagami
We can decide after mass-claim. It might be useful, but for now I think any pattern is likely going to just be JA vs GoT.