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Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:30 am
by Prof Fridays
Straw man? What?
↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:So your role is that you're a bodyguard that has 1 shot BP not a BP that has a 1 shot bodyguard?
That is correct, because a bulletproof 1-shot bodyguard isn't a thing.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:30 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Yeah but he's arguing that I don't want the cop protected, which is an untenable argument that I never posited.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:31 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Goddamnit. I thought I had this.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:32 am
by Prof Fridays
↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Yeah but he's arguing that I don't want the cop protected, which is an untenable argument that I never posited.
It was an implication of the argument you presented, i.e. that lynching me was fine because I'm not a PR at this point (which is horrible anyway, because VTs are still valuable).
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:32 am
by Prof Fridays
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:33 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ Prof Fridays wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Yeah but he's arguing that I don't want the cop protected, which is an untenable argument that I never posited.
It was an implication of the argument you presented, i.e. that lynching me was fine because I'm not a PR at this point (which is horrible anyway, because VTs are still valuable).
Again, not what I posited, if you're town don't twist my words.
I said since I found it likely you were lying, lynching what would effectively be VT would be easier to stomach than losing a PR. I was also bloodthirsty at the time because for some reason the two scum had a hard on for you.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:34 am
by bjc
That can't be a scum claim lol.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:34 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Can we not do this whole thing again?
Derivan/Phok, Fridays, Anatole and probably BJC are town. We have a good enough base to work with from there.
Clusk, SKOT, Havingfitz are on the chopping block
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:35 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ bjc wrote:That can't be a scum claim lol.
I meant I thought I had the game figured out, since Fridays was a shoe-in for the last mafia. I continue by shit streak this game.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:35 am
by Prof Fridays
Anatole Kuragin wrote: ↑ Prof Fridays wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Yeah but he's arguing that I don't want the cop protected, which is an untenable argument that I never posited.
It was an implication of the argument you presented, i.e. that lynching me was fine because I'm not a PR at this point (which is horrible anyway, because VTs are still valuable).
Again, not what I posited, if you're town don't twist my words.
I said since I found it likely you were lying, lynching what would effectively be VT would be easier to stomach than losing a PR. I was also bloodthirsty at the time because for some reason the two scum had a hard on for you.
*shrugs* I mean, scum will naturally have strong town reads that are actually town so they can be like, "Look, yeah, we're totally town because we read him right!"
UNVOTE:
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:36 am
by Anatole Kuragin
↑ Prof Fridays wrote:Anatole Kuragin wrote: ↑ Prof Fridays wrote: ↑ Anatole Kuragin wrote:Yeah but he's arguing that I don't want the cop protected, which is an untenable argument that I never posited.
It was an implication of the argument you presented, i.e. that lynching me was fine because I'm not a PR at this point (which is horrible anyway, because VTs are still valuable).
Again, not what I posited, if you're town don't twist my words.
I said since I found it likely you were lying, lynching what would effectively be VT would be easier to stomach than losing a PR. I was also bloodthirsty at the time because for some reason the two scum had a hard on for you.
*shrugs* I mean, scum will naturally have strong town reads that are actually town so they can be like, "Look, yeah, we're totally town because we read him right!"
UNVOTE:
Yeah I know but both were fairly careless with their play.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:37 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Oh shit I forgot Marquis - who is now my #1
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:40 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Assuming the cop isn't inactive with a town result on Fridays, it must be on one of the other players. Cop reveals 1 extra CI, Fridays protects him tonight, we get another result tomorrow, we win the game?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:41 am
by Anatole Kuragin
And if the cop dies we just lynch Fridays, who would have to be the last scum in this scenario.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:42 am
by Prof Fridays
That might not be bad.
VOTE: Marquis
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:42 am
by Anatole Kuragin
(assuming it's an every night cop)
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:42 am
by Anatole Kuragin
UNVOTE:
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:44 am
by havingfitz
I brain farted on the BP aspect of DPs claim.
So are people basing belief of PF's claim on the possibility that Albert was jk'd N2?
And if PF thought he might have protected who we thought was a cop N2...why not protect him N3?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:47 am
by Prof Fridays
↑ havingfitz wrote:I brain farted on the BP aspect of DPs claim.
So are people basing belief of PF's claim on the possibility that Albert was jk'd N2?
...no. Not sure where you're getting that from.
↑ havingfitz wrote:And if PF thought he might have protected who we thought was a cop N2...why not protect him N3?
I thought surely the mafia wouldn't be so silly as to attempt to kill Albert again. But alas, I underestimated how desperate the last mafia member was.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:48 am
by Prof Fridays
Fortunately, it ends up being pretty revealing of what kind of mafia PR we're dealing with.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:00 am
by havingfitz
↑ Prof Fridays wrote:I thought surely the mafia wouldn't be so silly as to attempt to kill Albert again. But alas, I underestimated how desperate the last mafia member was.
This comes across as complete bollocks.
1. You thought Albert was a cop
2. You "protected" him N2.
3. There was no NK N2 but afayk you still have a 1shot BP
4. You assume Albert was targeted N2
5. Yet you decide scum will give up and decide to protect someone who in no way warranted protection over a perceived cop.
6. A.k.a. Bullshit
What do you mean you WIFOM'd last night and decided to protect bjc?
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:09 am
by Prof Fridays
I've already made my case well enough. Night 2 no-death proves my claim by Occam's Razor. You have to make a much more roundabout argument to say I'm scum from these events, than to admit I'm town. I protected bjc on the grounds that I assumed the mafia would not continue to pursue a kill on Albert and bjc seemed the next-least scummy, and I justified it by the fact that we have room to wiggle.
VOTE: havingfitz
This seems in line with the desperate move of the Night 3 Albert kill.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:12 am
by Anatole Kuragin
Wiggle room: if albert lives we basically have the game locked up, if he dies our chances drop considerably
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:13 am
by Prof Fridays
The way I see it, Anatole's right. We've got this game all sealed up. You have to convince the rest of the town to lynch me to stand a chance of killing that Cop in order to even think about the winning.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:13 am
by Anatole Kuragin
that was with the assumption he was a doctor