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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:34 am
by Aquanim
itlepip wrote:
Honestly I kinda feel that this game is being dominated by town, and scum is just slipping through the cracks a lot.
...

What are you doing about it?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:48 am
by farside22
Thinking pip is town with the lastest comments.

Titus is scum.
That story spinning is a scum tactic.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:52 am
by Aquanim
Not sure about town, but #424 is a higher quality post than any of his others by some margin. If that keeps up I have no objection to him living to day 2.

Provisionally:
UNVOTE: itlepip

@Farside
: What is your opinion of LoHa? Particularly with reference to his latest post.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:54 am
by farside22
Aquanim wrote:Not sure about town, but #424 is a higher quality post than any of his others by some margin. If that keeps up I have no objection to him living to day 2.

Provisionally:
UNVOTE: itlepip

@Farside
: What is your opinion of LoHa? Particularly with reference to his latest post.



His question to Titus was bland.
I'm resorting some reads but too many nulls right now.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:54 am
by Aquanim
EBWOP: My opinion is that given how much has happened in the thread between it and the last time he posted, it is VERY thin. Much more could have been said by an interested townie.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:57 am
by farside22
Aquanim wrote:EBWOP: My opinion is that given how much has happened in the thread between it and the last time he posted, it is VERY thin. Much more could have been said by an interested townie.



No I get it.

Im going to check something

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:59 am
by TheLhix
What is the reasoning behind getting rid of titus? They seem to be searching with scum with invigoration and their arguments (while thin at times) don't fail to make sense totally.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:00 am
by farside22
TheLhix wrote:What is the reasoning behind getting rid of titus? They seem to be searching with scum with invigoration and their arguments (while thin at times) don't fail to make sense totally.



Because she is scum.
You think calling one player scum based on one post is seriously scum hunting?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:04 am
by farside22
Aquanim wrote:EBWOP: My opinion is that given how much has happened in the thread between it and the last time he posted, it is VERY thin. Much more could have been said by an interested townie.



Just looking back on loha post he thought thelhix and Titus were scum on his wagon.
At that time she already made a point why loha was scum so the question just seems fillerish

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:05 am
by TheLhix
farside22 wrote:
TheLhix wrote:What is the reasoning behind getting rid of titus? They seem to be searching with scum with invigoration and their arguments (while thin at times) don't fail to make sense totally.



Because she is scum.
You think calling one player scum based on one post is seriously scum hunting?


No, but I dont think its enough to define someone as scum. If we were doing it based on that we'd have half the game on the menu from the near start. I am not defending that she isnt scum, I am just defending that we dont have enough to waste a lynch on yet. Besides Titus what do you think would be the best option?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:15 am
by Aquanim
farside22 wrote:
Aquanim wrote:EBWOP: My opinion is that given how much has happened in the thread between it and the last time he posted, it is VERY thin. Much more could have been said by an interested townie.



Just looking back on loha post he thought thelhix and Titus were scum on his wagon.
At that time she already made a point why loha was scum so the question just seems fillerish

Mm... I don't think Titus and LoHa are scum together, but individually I scumread both of them.

In addition to everything else said about Titus, the whole business with that "counterwagon" on pignash never sat well with me. Explicitly saying that you're voting for someone for the purpose of starting a counterwagon weakens the strength of the vote a lot and makes you less accountable for it (you can always hide behind your counterwagon motive, rather than the actual read). The pignash read also hasn't been pursued whatsoever since then.

I don't think that LoHa's vote for Titus is scummy on the grounds of hypocrisy which Titus advanced; I don't think that LoHa agreeing with Titus that the game had not progressed much necessarily means that LoHa should townread Titus, especially when Titus had done very little to advance the game. On the other hand, the vote itself being unexplained and unpushed by him sits poorly with me, and his contributions since have been lacklustre.

Both reasonable cases, but likely to be mutually inconsistent. Question is, which (if either) is scum? I think I'll have to sleep on it.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:11 am
by LoHa
Meanwhile I'll take home the fact that aquaman doesn't know why Titus' vote is on me either and that I'm in his lynch pool because my play is thin. Does my postcount or the substance bother you? I've made two alignment indicative arguments for titusscum, the produce of my thin play. You call me scummy because my play is thin, I'd expect a townie with such a fat play as yours to come up with better arguments to base a lynch on, or at least sheep the ones that make sense.

Are you talkative scum?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:17 am
by LoHa
VOTE: pisskop

Fun stops now, scum.

This guy hasn't done anything either.

Let's see if he'll omgus like the other or what.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:46 am
by Soren
Aquanim wrote:Not sure about town, but #424 is a higher quality post than any of his others by some margin. If that keeps up I have no objection to him living to day 2.

Provisionally:
UNVOTE: itlepip

@Farside
: What is your opinion of LoHa? Particularly with reference to his latest post.
what from from your 425 and 427 that lead you to "like" his post?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:46 am
by Kop
Aquanim wrote:That's not an answer to this, I don't think.

There IS no wagon at that stage. Why would Farside be trying to work out if she can run a wagon on her buddy, when she could just... not, and sit on her reasonably popular Pip wagon?


What is the actual point of that play? Considering how much pull Farside has in this thread there seems to me that there would be considerable risk of the wagon taking off. I simply don't buy it as a bus. Too little reward for far too much risk.


I agree with this. Bussing day one, is probably amateurish Mafia play because it just holds far too much risk where they won't gain anything in return.

I think in all the games that I have participated in, and seen, Mafia would not attempt to start a wagon on a partner, when there is already an active wagon that they can work from. It just wouldn't make sense if I'd ever seen a Mafia member start a wagon on a partner, when there was no real need to do it, just to gain town points if they got the wagon and going and the flip.

I am not feeling Titus stance over everything. I can't see how she can scum read someone straight away from one post, one vote. Even if Loha agreed with the points being made from Titus, that doesn't exactly mean Loha is town reading her to not put a vote there. I had read through her ISO, and she voted for Pignash, gave a little reason, but has not pursued, or even engaged with Pignash ever since making that vote. I know she is so far into Farside, and Loha debate, she has never mentioned Pignash or even asked anything to engage with Pignash, I just can't get what has changed since then or even seen anything that has made her doubt/change her stance.

@Titus, you voted for Pignash, has your stance changed on that read/reasoning you gave?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:56 am
by pignash
I really need to separate my name into Pig Nash so people can say one or the other, who do I ask about that?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:58 am
by Kop
pignash wrote:I really need to separate my name into Pig Nash so people can say one or the other, who do I ask about that?


I'm going to refer you as Nash.

What do you make of that vote Titus placed on you, early game?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:04 am
by pignash
I think it's because I'm playing similarly to my scum game in NY 190, but that's just how I play really.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:08 am
by Kop
pignash wrote:I think it's because I'm playing similarly to my scum game in NY 190, but that's just how I play really.


I've only participated with Titus the once, how many times have you participated with her?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:14 am
by Titus
@Kop, the agreeing word choice quibble again. Town don't vote someone who they agree with and say nothing else about them. I looked like an easy shot because I was prodded.

Big mistake.

@Kop, Nothing in Pig Nash changed but he's town by PoE.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:39 am
by pignash
Just the once. Never interacted in an ongoing game we both participate(d) in.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:42 am
by pisskop
le lul @ laho trying to vote me.

LoHa wrote:VOTE: pisskop

Fun stops now, scum.

This guy hasn't done anything either.

Let's see if he'll omgus like the other or what.

vote: laho

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 7:43 am
by pisskop
omgus you guiz, he doesnt know what omgus is! :roll:

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:03 am
by hi im Yakko
LoHa wrote:VOTE: pisskop

Fun stops now, scum.

This guy hasn't done anything either.

Let's see if he'll omgus like the other or what.


Do you think offering up a lynch candidate will make the subject line that is currently you go away?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:06 am
by pisskop
farside22 wrote:
pisskop wrote:I think Farside is acting like a silly bugger. Dont know what that means wrt her alignment yet though.



How so?

Im just noting how you seem closer to JoJo's Great Adventure than Boonskiies I.