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Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:44 pm**

Vote Count 1.11

JarJarDrinks- [0]
Dunnstral - [1] Mathblade
Zachstralkita - [0]
Creature - [1] Infinity 324
Infinity 324 - [1] Zachstralkita
Transcend - [2] AlpacaAlpaca, iraonavp
XnadrojX - [0]
iraonavp - [1] Creature
Mathblade - [0]
AlpacaAlpaca - [2] Transcend, Dunnstral
Gamma Emerald - [0]
Dongempire - [0]
Something_Smart - [1] JarJarDrinks

Not Voting - Dongempire, Something_Smart, XnadrojX, Gamma Emerald

Mod Notes – None.

With 13 Alive, It Takes 7 to Lynch.

Day 1 Ends In (expired on 2016-10-26 14:14:38).

Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:23 pm**

In post 419, iraonavp wrote:
In post 401, Something_Smart wrote:@the people who've played with JarJar before: does he usually believe his reads are amazing and read people based on how they agree with them, refuse to discuss with townreads, and/or scumread people for semantics reasons?
Yes, it's an exact definition of JarJarDrinks.

he's fairly stubborn most of the time (which is a good quality to have sometimes) but he's not ALWAYS stubborn as in he can change his mind at times. but yeah getting stuck in a jarjar tunnel is hell.

Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:33 pm**

Admittedly though, JarJar does get a good grip of games.

He consistently gets 2/3's fairly often. One of the better players I've seen on this site. Just tunnel vision heavy, much like myself.

Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:37 pm**

In post 420, Dunnstral wrote:And you

Not true, I always discuss!

Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:39 pm**

In post 413, Zachstralkita wrote:Please quit while you're ahead.

I know, seems quite unlikely to me too...

Posted: **Thu Oct 13, 2016 11:43 pm**

It seems like Infinity-234 is town-aligned.

Dongempire, what does your signature mean?

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:23 am**

In post 417, XnadrojX wrote:
In post 196, Transcend wrote:
Transcend's BS'd reads of Mini 1841 v 1.1

{Gamma Emerald}

{Infinity 324, Zachstralkita}

{xNadrojx, Dunnstral, MathBlade, Something_Smart}

{JarJarDrinks, iraonavp, Dongempire}

{AlpacaAlpaca}

{}

{Creature}

VOTE: Creature

Is where I'm at right now.

Alpaca's tunnel doesn't feel right on me, I get it that I owned him but his tunnel on me feels flat and I think he kept the charade going on for a bit too long.

Math and Dunn might be TVT but I put both of them in the third tier because of uncertainty

Jordan had a towny opening but his progression through the game has been meh.

SS is a tonal townread and I had the same reads as him at one point.

I liked Infinity's catch up.
Can you like, explain Gamma and Creature, I don't reallu understand why are they your top townreads and scumreads respectively

Transend please answer this.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:37 am**

In post 359, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 356, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 333, Zachstralkita wrote:I don't take a whole lot of issue with Something_Smart at all, actually.
Looks like whiteknighting.
why??

I mean, I'm far from a townread on zach

But I think that's a bit of a stretch

He's right, though. It does LOOK like whiteknighting.

Hey Infinity remember that time when I said a post made by someone I townread about someone I scumread looked like whiteknighting? These are good things to point out.

In post 395, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 392, Donempire wrote:i said that so i could copy paste your readslist and say i disagree woth all of them. party crasher.
Sounds like a BS excuse.

Lol I'm fairly confident that Dong intended to do this. Not sure how that makes me feel about them though.

In post 404, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 401, Something_Smart wrote:@the people who've played with JarJar before: does he usually believe his reads are amazing and read people based on how they agree with them,
refuse to discuss with townreads
, and/or scumread people for semantics reasons?
I'm refusing to get into an argument over playstyle w/ a townread. Not refusing to discuss stuffs.

Okay, fair enough. Correction acknowledged.

In post 408, MathBlade wrote:
In post 355, Zachstralkita wrote:LMFAOOOOOO pagetop jacked

Dunnstral wrote:
In post 333, Zachstralkita wrote:I don't take a whole lot of issue with Something_Smart at all, actually.
This is a scummy post by Zach by the way

Willing to believe Mathblade is incompetant for now

VOTE: Zachstral
Of course it is, I love you buddy but your inability to think sometimes upsets me

.........................but I'm the one who's really stupid
Wanted to get out some quick thoughts since work is going to be til late tonight.

I think the scum team is Zach dunn and something smart.

I don't like how Zach is pulling names from thin air and not supporting his reads. The only thing close to a reason is the psychology bit and while scientifically accurate does nothing to demonstrate whether those impulses are logical.

Furthermore if Zach was calling himself stupid and actually meant it then he would spend time asking questions and investigating people to get more signals into his brain to evaluate. Zach seems only interested in mudslinging.

Combining this with Dunn's sudden switch that looks like cross talk when I wouldn't be mislynched. Combined with how Dunn said I wouldn't be run up this gave Zach a place to camp while not doing anything useful.

Something smart when I played with them was pretty antitown. I don't like how they are wording their interactions with jar jar. They seem way more protown than when I played with them. I like it but it is very much off to how I know something smart to be.

hahahahaha

do you WANT me to play like I did in Poker Mafia? I don't think anybody wants that. Read some of my other games if you want to meta read me; that game was an outlier in just how terrible I was (and how busy I was).

In post 412, MathBlade wrote:Thanks for scum claiming.

You laugh at me but I am coin flip. I am either really really right or really really wrong. You think because you have labeled me an idiot that no one will listen and you will coast. You know of my tunnels Dunn. Once I find someone I think is scum I don't let go. I scream I yell I show I demonstrate. You can laugh now but I assure you when you flip scum I will have the last laugh after you are lynched.

you know, YOU aren't playing anything like you did in Poker either. But that doesn't mean I think you're scum.

In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?

This looks like it was leading somewhere; how would you have followed this up if he had responded yes?

In post 430, iraonavp wrote:It seems like Infinity-234 is town-aligned.

Dongempire, what does your signature mean?

Why do you townread Infinity, and do you have a history of correctly reading him?

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:40 am**

In post 432, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?
This looks like it was leading somewhere; how would you have followed this up if he had responded yes?

I would have slapped a vote on him.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 1:59 am**

In post 408, MathBlade wrote:I think the scum team is Zach dunn and something smart.

In post 410, Dunnstral wrote:Well games over I guess

Congrats to mathblade naming the entire scum team on page 17

In post 411, Zachstralkita wrote:fuck sake bruv i told u we could have got out of it

Very much dislike this last post from Zach.

I feel like he's trying to inception the idea into Dunn that since math is wrong about him, he's wrong about Zach too.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:01 am**

In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?

And also don't like this post either as it's misrepping what Zach is saying.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:02 am**

In post 435, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?
And also don't like this post either as it's misrepping what Zach is saying.

Kinda the point of the post there buddy.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:10 am**

ain't nobody got time for dem walls

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:11 am**

In post 431, XnadrojX wrote:
In post 417, XnadrojX wrote:
In post 196, Transcend wrote:
Transcend's BS'd reads of Mini 1841 v 1.1

{Gamma Emerald}

{Infinity 324, Zachstralkita}

{xNadrojx, Dunnstral, MathBlade, Something_Smart}

{JarJarDrinks, iraonavp, Dongempire}

{AlpacaAlpaca}

{}

{Creature}

VOTE: Creature

Is where I'm at right now.

Alpaca's tunnel doesn't feel right on me, I get it that I owned him but his tunnel on me feels flat and I think he kept the charade going on for a bit too long.

Math and Dunn might be TVT but I put both of them in the third tier because of uncertainty

Jordan had a towny opening but his progression through the game has been meh.

SS is a tonal townread and I had the same reads as him at one point.

I liked Infinity's catch up.
Can you like, explain Gamma and Creature, I don't reallu understand why are they your top townreads and scumreads respectively
Transend please answer this.

gamma's tone is towny and i think he's genuinely game solving

creature is admittedly meta but it's starting to dissipate a little bit.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:13 am**

In post 436, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 435, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?
And also don't like this post either as it's misrepping what Zach is saying.
Kinda the point of the post there buddy.

So it wasn't a serious post? Or...

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:15 am**

In post 439, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 436, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 435, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?
And also don't like this post either as it's misrepping what Zach is saying.
Kinda the point of the post there buddy.
So it wasn't a serious post? Or...

Testing him.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:25 am**

@smart How does saying that you don't take issue with someone look like a WK? That's my question, obvious it's best to point something out of it does look like WKing.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:26 am**

Also, why ask ira if he has a history of correctly reading me? Is that necessary to have a townread on someone?

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 2:47 am**

In post 441, Infinity 324 wrote:@smart How does saying that you don't take issue with someone look like a WK? That's my question, obvious it's best to point something out of it does look like WKing.

Because by saying "actually" he's kinda admitting that I'm scummy while calling me town. It seems phrased as though he's defending a popular target (as a WK would), except that I'm not a popular target.

In post 442, Infinity 324 wrote:Also, why ask ira if he has a history of correctly reading me? Is that necessary to have a townread on someone?

No, but I want to know how much I can trust that read/expect that it be accurate, because I know my history of reading you is terrible.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:00 am**

Ok that first part is a semantics thug and I'll let zach respond to it

For the second part, gotcha. I haven't played with ira before I believe, though I have spectated at least 2 games he was in.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:33 am**

In post 439, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 436, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 435, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 414, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 409, Zachstralkita wrote:I can tell you with certainty you're wrong on one of three of those, and that one is me
So you are saying S_S is scum, as Math is right about him and Dunn?
And also don't like this post either as it's misrepping what Zach is saying.
Kinda the point of the post there buddy.
So it wasn't a serious post? Or...

Watching this. I think this exchange would be telling about Zach.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:34 am**

Why not watch me?

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:34 am**

You all will see what I see. And I will cut through the bullshit.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:36 am**

In post 446, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why not watch me?

You are a townread. How my townreads interact with my scumreads can help them see what I see. Sometimes the best tunnel is repeat back off and let others notice it. Takes time but it works.

Posted: **Fri Oct 14, 2016 3:40 am**

Off to work I go.

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