Timeshift Mafia III [Game Over]

[Land of Xanth]

Oh. Makes sense.
Wowie Kyouko, you're so helpful!
But Wowie Kyouko, that's a pretty random vote you got there. You wanna explain why you did that?
-Ali

[D3f3nd3r]

TTTT replaces Gamma Emerald.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hi game. I've been busy, catching up now.

VOTE: Vifam

Awkward vote.
With love, Ali

That's just a response to vifam voting narna in RVS. Skelda doesn't seem worth voting right now so I'll come back to that.

VOTE: PeregrineV

How did you come to that conclusion? Seems like a reach.

[Land of Xanth]

Yep, it's totally a reach when Vifam's RVS post was the 2nd post of the game.
Adapt Uzi. You're better then this.
-Ali

[Land of Xanth]

VOTE: Narna

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Narna hasn't read the game yet, it's just reacting to what they've seen so far. And peregrine is my second choice but and Skelda I don't think is going to react to pressure

[Land of Xanth]

I ask for a reason on PV. I don't get it.
Nice!
-Ali

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Don't like the way Peregrine criticizes both Comm and James here:

I always claim day one. It provides ample information for me to read people off of.

What do you claim if you are scum?

I fakeclaim as scum obviously.

So, given the disadvantage of claiming cop right away, and the fact you could be fakeclaiming as scum, you understand if we ignore the bit of self-meta that you always claim day1, and any reasons you gave for it. Right?

Okay, so Comm is confirmed scum.

UNVOTE: Xanth
VOTE: Comm

If he really were cop he would've immediately CCed.

Do you seriously think for half a second that there isn't a second investigative role if you're a 1-shot cop?

This shit is redonkulous. No investigative claims are getting lynched on day fucking one.

-G

You know, I actually really want to check the hyrdra's role. Just because of how defensive they've been of a 1-shot cop. I've already claimed the pointlessness of a 1-shot and now I've even CC'd.

Now, I can believe there's other investigatives out there, but a cop? Maybe, maybe not. A 1-shot cop at that? Hell no. I'm sticking to my guns with this one. I can believe a Tracker, a Watcher or some other claim. But 1-shot. Nope, he receives the bullet train to the noose today.

You are claiming a role that is much more beneficial for scum to have than town, so I don't buy any arguments that your role and a cop role (even X-shot), can't exist at the same time.

I feel like he should be leaning towards believing at least one of them since scum aren't likely to be CCing each other, but it looks more like he's sat in the middle.

@Tywin

- Except that your vote and rationale boils down to a OMGUS vote. Would rather see attempted discussion by you of either Xanth or SlySly early reads list.

This is a simplification and discredit of Tywin's vote and I think Tywin's town. He's also trying to direct Tywin to talk about what he wants Tywin to talk about, rather than talking about the reads lists himself. If PerV is scum I could see myself being wrong on SlySly.

Going to get back to rereading

Peregrine suspicions^

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I ask for a reason on PV. I don't get it.
Nice!
-Ali

It was already posted like 3 pages ago

[Land of Xanth]

Thx!
-Ali

[Tywin Lannister]

Just caught up. Went to doctor today and found out I have bronchitis. It sucks, and my ass hurts from getting a shot there. Not been a fun day.

Anyway, VOTE: peregrinV. I agree with Kyouko's reasoning, since I've already said the same things myself, and I still haven't gotten a response to my questions. Also, Sly is probably scum, but maybe he is just another VI. I can't really tell at this point, so I'll leave it alone for now. At least he didn't ignore me when I asked him questions like peregrinV has.

[Land of Xanth]

Tywin thoughts on Pep?
Also that fucking sucks.
-Ali

[Narna]

I think both of the mind-bendingly stupid cop claims are town.

I'm surprised this doesn't have more votes.

VOTE: Lil Uzi

[Narna]

{Comm, James, Kyouko
Skelda, Xanth, Vifam}
{Twin, Pep, Fuzzy, Harp, TTTT, Zekromaster}
{Slysly, Ramcius,
PV, Lil Uzi}

[Ramcius]

I think both of the mind-bendingly stupid cop claims are town.

I'm surprised this doesn't have more votes.

VOTE: Lil Uzi

why he?

[Narna]

His #427 is a joke among various gut pingings.

[TTTT]

Started reading this when I requested to replace in
I'm about halfway current.
Was hoping for a dayvig role pm so I could shut up Navy SEAL James.

hi ssbm and LUV

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Yep, it's totally a reach when Vifam's RVS post was the 2nd post of the game.
Adapt Uzi. You're better then this.
-Ali

Narna hasn't read the game yet, it's just reacting to what they've seen so far. And peregrine is my second choice but and Skelda I don't think is going to react to pressure

Didn't read that way to me. Read like while he was catching up he saw something that pinged him about Vifam.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Don't like the way Peregrine criticizes both Comm and James here:

I always claim day one. It provides ample information for me to read people off of.

What do you claim if you are scum?

I fakeclaim as scum obviously.

So, given the disadvantage of claiming cop right away, and the fact you could be fakeclaiming as scum, you understand if we ignore the bit of self-meta that you always claim day1, and any reasons you gave for it. Right?

Okay, so Comm is confirmed scum.

UNVOTE: Xanth
VOTE: Comm

If he really were cop he would've immediately CCed.

Do you seriously think for half a second that there isn't a second investigative role if you're a 1-shot cop?

This shit is redonkulous. No investigative claims are getting lynched on day fucking one.

-G

You know, I actually really want to check the hyrdra's role. Just because of how defensive they've been of a 1-shot cop. I've already claimed the pointlessness of a 1-shot and now I've even CC'd.

Now, I can believe there's other investigatives out there, but a cop? Maybe, maybe not. A 1-shot cop at that? Hell no. I'm sticking to my guns with this one. I can believe a Tracker, a Watcher or some other claim. But 1-shot. Nope, he receives the bullet train to the noose today.

You are claiming a role that is much more beneficial for scum to have than town, so I don't buy any arguments that your role and a cop role (even X-shot), can't exist at the same time.

I feel like he should be leaning towards believing at least one of them since scum aren't likely to be CCing each other, but it looks more like he's sat in the middle.

@Tywin

- Except that your vote and rationale boils down to a OMGUS vote. Would rather see attempted discussion by you of either Xanth or SlySly early reads list.

This is a simplification and discredit of Tywin's vote and I think Tywin's town. He's also trying to direct Tywin to talk about what he wants Tywin to talk about, rather than talking about the reads lists himself. If PerV is scum I could see myself being wrong on SlySly.

Going to get back to rereading

Peregrine suspicions^

I ask for a reason on PV. I don't get it.
Nice!
-Ali

It was already posted like 3 pages ago

I don't think he's scum here just because he's doubtful of the claims. Seems reasonable if he's thinking about the utility of each role and how helpful it would be each alignment. Your last point is valid but I don't think scum would suggest things he would like to see after the discredit. His suggestions reads like things he felt would've actually moved the game forward at the time as well.

[TTTT]

His #427 is a joke among various gut pingings.

plz share other "gut pingings"

[CommKnight]

"gut pingings"

Yes, let's hear some more from everyone. I still want to lynch James, but that isn't happening today and Ramcius is just either bad town or scum. It's not even funny but with everyone looking elsewhere I'm giving up my crusades until they either get over themselves and their TvT fighting or I get some conf scum with my role.

I'm comfortable with my reads so far.

Ramcius and James in the scum pile with Tywin being my only hard town read. The rest are neutral or near neutral with their posts or lack thereof.

[Vifam]

I still wanna lynch Uzi today

Wynaut Pep?

With love, Ali

He could be scum but I haven't really noticed him

[Tywin Lannister]

@Uzi: so discussing the reads list of Sly/LoX would've moved the game along, but me discussing Sly's other posts were not? How does that make any sense? Also, I ignored his request, because I was going to do a read list myself until I saw that almost everyone was lurking/inactive/0-2 posts total (all with no real content) for me to say anything more than 'these couple of players are obv town, these 1-2 players look scummy, the other 12-15 players are completely null.' It was pointless and I stopped. Narna hadn't posted yet. Gamma wasn't replaced. Hark didn't post yet. Most players had maybe 1 RVS post at best. So how would his request for me to discuss a useless endeavor have progressed the game more than my genuine SR on Sly? It looked like chainsawing to me, since the goal seemed to be take heat off of Sly there. Otherwise, it could be scum trying to gain TCred by defending what he saw as lynchbait. I don't see why town would defend another player from simple questions, especially when Sly seemed capable of answering them himself. He wasn't wilting under pressure like a new player may (which then makes the defense more understandable), so I still can't see why he'd do it. His entire point about the OMGUS thing looks fabricated, and the term didn't even fit.

[CommKnight]

Also to note: I'm still shaking off the rust from my long break of forum mafia in general. I use to keep a folder for each game I played with excel spreadsheets and word when I was hardcore in it doing 3-4 games at a time and could spend more than a few minutes here and there on. So if I bypass questions or forget why I think something one way or another, I just don't have it written down and saved somewhere like I use to do all the time.

[TTTT]

@ssbm
can you help a bro out
and give me the game-state from your pov?