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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:42 am

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Nor does mine (mine only mentions the branch I am working for, the democracy), though it still seems quite improbable for a scum to slip up so carelessly.

At any rate, my current theory for the game setup:
We have the Democracy vs. the Oligarchy vs. the ???
Because Oligarchy refers to a group, I believe it is more than two, and since we are told we have an alternate scum group, I am inclined to think that we have three players in the mafia, so right now we have 3/9 players that are mafia.
As for the second kill, it is probably the work of the vig, a serial killer, or possibly a mimic?
If the ??? is the cult, as has been speculated by Cap before he got de-Cap-itated (pun!), then that means that there are two players in the cult.
So therefore, we have nine players. Three of them are mafia, two of them are cult, and the remaining four are town.
Clearly, this doesn't look good for the citizens, but we still outnumber all of the other groups. Therefore, I'm fairly sure a win is possible, as long as we're careful...
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:42 pm

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No, I'm sure scum would. Thats the definition of a slip up, right? A complete blunder?

Also means neither Dizzy or Windkirby is the lynch today. Dizzy is obv scum, and wk is obv town/recruit based on the info they just posted. If we don't hit the recruiter today, town actually can't win.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:20 pm

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How am I "obv scum"? Your assumption is based upon the idea that if I was a generic townie, my role PM wouldn't contain that information, and thus I am scum. Of course, I could be a Non-Generic town-aligned player, which would explain a different role PM.

Also, windkirby's assumption is flawed. He neglects to consider the fact that people have multiple win conditions - as of the mods post 20: "
There is a town, some scum, and a group of people that can win with the town, their regualr scum group, or their alternate scum group.
". This means, there are potentially more townies than he's giving us credit for. Also, he's making assumptions about the quantity of non-town aligned mafia and altrernate scum. How does he know there weren't multiple members of the assumed cult? How does he know they *are* a cult? How does he know the can recruit?

I will say that I know they are described as a "cult" in my role PM also and that I have my suspicions that windkirby's numbers are wrong as there is at least one member of the Oligarchy who is also a member of the "cult".
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:44 am

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No, it wouldn't explain a different win condition so well.

Anyways, your information intrigues me to say the least.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:36 am

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Role PMs include information. Som, apparently more than others.

By the way... prods/replacements, please? People are inactive and the game has stagnated - in fact, I'm not even sure if the people who've posted since the game restarted are enough to actually get someone lynched, are we?
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:09 am

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Seeing as how we have had four people post when it takes five to lynch, that is an excellent point, Dizzy. Let's get Day 2 going.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:03 am

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Seven people have posted out of the nine left actually, but 4 people have posted all of once with nothing of substance.
The two who haven't posted total 8 posts between them for the whole of day one


windkirby - Actively posting. He's just above me. Look up and see!

Tyfo - No posts on Day Two. 4 posts on day one(including his confirmation), none of which actually seem to help the game along and avaerage 17 words each. Has been posting ionfrequently elsewhere, though.
Needs replacement IMO.


armlx - Actively posting. Look slightly further up to see!

DizzyIzzyB13 - Me. I am posting RIGHT now! More posts than anyone on Day Two, I think.

Serous - Posted "I was wondering how long night would take..." about a week ago and hasn't been seen here or anywhere else on the site since.
Prod/Replacement, please?


andersonw - Posted "I don't know, but the definition of oligarchy means a government run by a small group of people. " 3 and a half days ago. Has been around the rest of the site, though.
Prod, please?


roffman - Popped in to post"i'm here, just doing a reread, will post something worth reading in a day or two" and failed to live up to his promise, despite having time to post in other games since.
Prod, please?


Ration - Posted "What's the "Oligarchy"?" several hours before andersonw's post. Hasn't been seen since. Hasn't been seen since - and that was his first post in more than two weeks, which was also in this game.
Prod/replacement, please?


AniX - Hasn't posted on day two and posted all of four times on Day One (3 posts on one day, about a week after the game started, and another promisuing to break the game open a whole month later, 8 days or so before the end of the day). He seems to be regularly posting elsewhere, and thus...
Prod or (preferably) replacement, please?
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 5:12 am

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^^^

This game needs much more activity.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:10 am

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Reading back, I have a theory on roffman. He has claimed that his role says he is a mafia infiltrator. Based on my role PM, I have knowledge that a member of the "cult" is also a member of the mafia group. So... should we consider the possibility that roffman is a "cult"-aligned mafia member? (Something similar to what armlx posted in 173, to give credit where credit is due for having this vague idea first).

Also, fun fact that I missed when checking up for my previous post: serous has 8 posts (including his confirmation), averaging less than 9 words per post and whose entire contribution of information is to say "Mine's yellowish" when people were claiming cloack colours. Otherwise, he has confirmed, claimed not to understand what people meant by "cloak colours", stated his exams are over so thoughts will be coming soon (on March 8th, we're still waiting...), asked for a deadline, justified it by saying there was no activity (oh, the irony), pointing out that someone wasn't lynched because someome unvoted and then making his last post about night taking a long time.

Another fun fact: andersonw has a total of 11 posts, although he's sort of contributed on the rare occasions he's deigned us with his presence.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:33 am

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Since I'm bored... a table of post counts, including this one. Yeesh...

[mrow]Player Name[col]Posts[col]Percentage of Total Posts (Rounded to 2DP)[col]NoteCapricious[col]84[col]19.31[col]Lynched, Day One armlx[col]67[col]15.40[col]Alive windkirby[col]48[col]11.03[col]Alive DizzyIzzyB13[col]36[col]8.28[col]Replaced Justin125, alive xyxxy[col]36[col]8.28[col]Mod QuantumFruit[col]31[col]7.13[col]Killed, Night One Ration[col]31[col]7.13[col]Alive roffman[col]30[col]6.90[col]Alive MoS[col]12[col]2.76[col]Non-Player andersonw[col]11[col]2.53[col]Alive Occult[col]10[col]2.30[col]Non-Player Serous[col]8[col]1.84[col]Alive somestrangeflea[col]8[col]1.84[col]Replaced by mikeburnfire Justin125[col]7[col]1.61[col]Replaced by DizzyIzzyB13 mikeburnfire[col]7[col]1.61[col]Replaced Somestrangeflea, killed Night One AniX[col]4[col]0.92[col]Alive Tyfo[col]4[col]0.92[col]Alive Mechanical Machine[col]1[col]0.23[col]Non Player Total[col]435[col]100[col]Total
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:08 am

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Mr. Flay wrote:
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Any game in which more than 25% players/roles have a worse posting frequency than the
moderator
has a problem.

False
Corollary:
Any game in which the moderator has a lower posting frequency than
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player also has a problem.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:46 am

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Vote: Xyzzy

/cows: roffman

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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:47 am

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Oh, and HAPPY 420!
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:28 am

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Yesterday, as in Day 2, many votes were based on cloak colours and many thoughts about possible alignments were made. Do we continue to base some of our investegation on this or leave it? (The mod did say "... make of it what you want".)

Here's the claimed colours from yesterday, with added confirmed roles and edited because of replacements.


The Complete Cloak Color Claim List


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windkirby- Red

Tyfo- Purple

armlx- Somewhere between olive green and brown, 2 blackish eye spots with yellow centers

DizzyIzzyB13 - Rouge-like Brown Red

Serous-Yellowish

andersonw- Bright Yellow, Red Background

roffman-light purple, with a swirl (Same color as wiki mentioned by Capricious)

Ration- Mod-told Indigo

AniX- Various splotches of different green shades


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Capricious- Deep Purple, bordering on black (Mod-told Indigo)
- (Protown) Cop capable of finding alternate scum group members.
Mikeburnfire- Green and Orange
- (Protown) - Cop capable of finding Oligarchy (thus assuming the Oligarchy is the scum group)
QuantumFruit- Light Blue, with larger darker blue and lighter blue splotches
- (Protown) Vote Thief
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:46 am

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I think we leave it, especially given the Roffman is cult speculation.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:57 am

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By the way, my PM also mentions the Oligarchy, but mentions no alignment whatsoever. And in my previous post I only assumed that an Oligarchy Cop was a cop designed to find Oligarchy members (as the Alternate Scum Group Cop was confirmed by the mod to be a cop finding members of that group).

If this is true, and the Oligarchy Cop is protown (as stated in the very first post on page 1), then the Oligarcy must be the main scum group.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 12:47 am

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Tyfo lives!
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 1:05 am

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Indeed I do.

I finally pulled myself together and re-read everything, something that was long overdue on my todo-list. I'm sorry for the inconvience.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:41 am

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So Tyfo, care to explain who you think is scum or where you think we ought to go from here?
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Apr 22, 2008 10:47 am

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I say given dizzy's info a roffman lynch is in order.

/cows Roffman


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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:45 am

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Personally i think we disregard cloak colors. My role pm is obviously wrong about it, and i retract all cloak color based votes because of it
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:25 am

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/cows count number ten, because comtinuing numbering where we left off is cool is fun.DizzyIzzyB13: armlx
Roffman: Ration


Not voting: Tyfo, Serous, AniX, Windkirby, DizzyIzzyB13, Roffman, Andersonw
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:26 am

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Err,

/uncows

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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:00 pm

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So, you're backpedaling?
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:33 pm

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Serous wrote:So, you're backpedaling?
Posts like this are why I think Serous is also scum. Its hardly backpedalling when alignment reveals prove you wrong plus someone says "Oh, BTW, mafia is infiltrated by the cult" when someone claimed mafia infiltrator....
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