Garuga should not have claimed. Even though I was pushing his wagon it wasn't getting a lot of support so I was leaving it as well. Don't get his early (L-4?) claim.
Besides the points I raised on D1, his continued push on Garuga in the latter part of D1 felt very mechanical (as town, I think his read would have shifted more fluidly), and his refusal to hammer Rampage while doing nothing to prevent the mislynch suggests Invisibility knew Rampage would flip town but had no desire to save his life.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:48 pm
by Invisibility
VOTE: JJD
scummiest person right now for me
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:49 pm
by Invisibility
In post 430, Shoshin wrote:his continued push on Garuga in the latter part of D1 felt very mechanical (as town, I think his read would have shifted more fluidly)
Could you elaborate?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:51 pm
by Shoshin
HF's failure to reevaluate anything, as well as his non-opposition to the Rampage lynch while never actually taking much of a position about Rampage, worries me. I also think Garuga's death makes a lot of sense from a scum HF perspective (Garuga scumread him, after all).
Summarize your D1 points. I don't see how his refusal to hammer Rampage while pushing another read is scum oriented. Looking at his ISO, I don't see anything to assume he knew Rampage would flip town and that seems presumptuous.
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Why is JJD the scummiest to you?
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ffs. Why are you talking about fitz now?
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 2:54 pm
by Shoshin
Mumble, before I answer any more of your questions, why don't you tell us your thoughts on the game?
In post 437, Mumble wrote:Absolutely not. You're bouncing. You answer.
Fuck no. We're on D2 and you've done nothing that meaningfully clears you as town... you're not even voting anyone... take a position, expose your views, show us how you're thinking about the game, and I'll elaborate on my positions. But as things stand, I've voted, I've explained my vote, and I've offered thoughts on other players. It's time for you to start showing us your thought process.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:00 pm
by Mumble
VOTE: Shosin
Now answer my fucking questions.
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:25 pm
by Shoshin
VOTE: Mumble
From the way he's playing, he's clearly implied that Invisibility is town in a way that suggests he's pre-inclined to do so (either because Invisibility is his partner, or because he knows Invisibility is town). He read Garuga as scum, he read me as scum, and he jumped on the Rampage lynch when it was popular to do so. In other words, he's voting townies. And he's obscured his alignment by keeping his thoughts to himself, and when pushed to offer some thoughts, he's refused. He'd rather vote me to answer his questions than actually say who he thinks is scum, or vote whoever he thinks is scum. Also, note how he's still voting with support in HF - never making decisions without someone else pursuing the same things. It's time for him to offer some thoughts on the game that don't consist of pointless questions or voting popular wagons or voting without any semblance of a scumhunting mindset. Also, consider how terrible his vote on me is - voting because he doesn't want to offer his own thoughts about the game before I answer more of his questions, as if somehow I'm scum because I want to know his thoughts on the game uninfluenced by my answers).
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:30 pm
by Shoshin
Invisibility, join me on Mumble!
Posted: Sat May 26, 2018 3:33 pm
by Mumble
To the fuckard above me...You denied me any ability to fully play by hammering early. I didn't get a chance to do anything because the day ended early due to BBT's incessant pushing and your naked hammer. I've not implied that I think Invis is town...I asked why you think he was scum given your naked opening vote. I jumped on Rampage because we hadn't had a wagon at that point, and wagons are good (absent dumbasses who will end the day early with them).
I would and will vote you if you decide not to answer for your scumminess...yes. You were voting for Invis, but pushing Fitz...why? Answer that. You are now voting me because I scum read and voted you.
You are obv scumming at this point. Enjoy trying to push me.