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Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:02 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 397, clidd wrote:
In post 387, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 312, clidd wrote:Because he wouldn't say this as scum. We played a game together, and he's acting the same way (he was town that game).
Don't you think that scum!Luca would try to emulate his towngame as much as possible?

I don't have much meta with scum Luca, the one scum game I did play with him he replaced out of so not much to go on there.
Yes, obviously, but I have personal reasons for considering him locktown.
Such as?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:09 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 409, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 403, clidd wrote:As long as we vote Emperor, Dsjstr or Hectic today, we're good.

VOTE: Emperor FlippyNips
If you truly TR me then trust my read on Flips.

I think dsjstr is Town as well. Hectic is a decent option, although I need to review.
Why do you townread dsj?

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:11 pm
by Luca Blight
Creative seemed Townie.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:24 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 422, Ame wrote:Aaron is trending down for seemingly not comprehending my sarcasm, which is just weird.
Sarcasm doesn't translate well over text, I don't get why that's AI.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:32 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 420, Luca Blight wrote:Clidd is probably Town for now just by the fact he's actively contributing.

VOTE: Insomnia

I'll try this for size.
I think insomnia is town actually.

I liked their engagement with me early game, it felt like he was genuinely trying to understand my thought process regarding my Ame read as opposed to just attacking it.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:37 pm
by Luca Blight
You think as scum he would have just attacked it?

I think it pays well to seem considered. I find he’s overcompensating with regards to Ame - I could agree with him to an extent but it feels too much, and I wouldn’t expect him to TR Ame so strongly based on what she has posted so far.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:37 pm
by Ame
In post 428, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 422, Ame wrote:Aaron is trending down for seemingly not comprehending my sarcasm, which is just weird.
Sarcasm doesn't translate well over text, I don't get why that's AI.
did you really think I had some sort of voice analyzing matching?????????

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 5:38 pm
by Ame
machine*

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:11 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 430, Luca Blight wrote:You think as scum he would have just attacked it?
Maybe not, but I think the way he changed his read on me was genuine and his interactions with me early on were genuine as well.

I'll look into your case against him further tomorrow though (irl).

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:23 pm
by AaronFrost
I'll be mostly V/LA tomorrow, maybe be able to check in at night

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:41 pm
by insomnia
If I was pressured to drop you I wouldn’t have come back to vote you once again and just sit on flippy

If you even think I’m the type of player to get pressured

I did and still am town reading your progression on Wimpy which was what ticked me off, that’s the only thing I got bad feels from on your slot. That’s why I ignored your wall and whatever, I actually liked it and the immediate conversations after it gained reactions.

Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2020 6:46 pm
by insomnia
Lol Luca I’m not scum

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 3:21 am
by Karnage
Read through real quick but will have to go back and take a closer look at a couple things

I'd be down with an ame lynch right now. not a fan of insomnia either. Wouldn't be upset by a clidd or djstr lynch either

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:06 am
by Hectic
Ame, if you think me answering an RQS is scum-indicative, please see: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11457012 (it's a nice read)

Luca, wanna elaborate on that scumread of me then?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:09 am
by Luca Blight
It’s not based on a lot, mainly gut feeling. I will elaborate when I’m on a computer and can go through your posts easier.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:10 am
by Hectic
This is what I'm more used to seeing from clidd as town: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11552826

As town, he's very analytical and has good fleshed-out reasons for sorting people, but I'm not seeing the same thing in how he's townlocking Wimpy/Luca here. The reasons given there don't warrant a townlock. Not 100% I saw this, but why are you townreading him, AaronFF?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:37 am
by insomnia
In post 437, Karnage wrote:not a fan of insomnia either.
everyone eventually becomes my fan although they may not become fully aware of it

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:57 am
by Ame
In post 438, Hectic wrote:Ame, if you think me answering an RQS is scum-indicative, please see: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11457012 (it's a nice read)
Thanks! I think the situations are different because they were asking genuine questions that pertained to the game, whereas mine was a satirical RQS with questions that had no value. That being said, it really is NAI unless I obtain enough data from games (with players I haven't played with before) to suggest that it isn't. This is the first time I made that opening, so I have nothing to compare it to.

Did my explanation for why I voted Insomnia at the time satisfy your concern?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:03 am
by Ame
In post 364, insomnia wrote:
In post 316, clidd wrote:
In post 313, Wimpy wrote:
In post 312, clidd wrote:Because he wouldn't say this as scum. We played a game together, and he's acting the same way (he was town that game).
Best way to play as scum is to play how you would as town
Do you know the player TSE ? (TrueSoulEnergy) I am feeling something similar with your playstyle (scum indicative).
I like this post, not sure this PoV comes from mafia either. Feeling as though scum would just deliberately choose to push someone for their in-game content rather than just choose to compare them to another player's style, I have yet to see wolves take this approach, surprisingly. it's like trying to justify a gut feeling, all the while not being able to properly put the finger on the "why", so they choose to do it by comparing it to another player, whereas scum wouldn't even bother to make such points, hope that makes some sense.
@Hectic, what do you think about this point?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:09 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 229, Emperor flippyNips wrote:
In post 210, Luca Blight wrote:I already think scum is in Ame, Clidd, Hectic.
this is about where im at too rn
i actually should of mentioned that i have no read on clidd, i was focused on the ame & hectic
In post 303, Hectic wrote:
In post 231, Emperor flippyNips wrote:maybe it is insomnia instead of hectic... hmmmm
Why does insomnia need to replace me specifically? Or was I just your 3rd strongest read?
cos you were gone & i was still hard sring ame & insom started to seem more scummy but i think i was just sring him in the moment idk if i still feel the same way about him.

In post 303, Hectic wrote: clidd's : Like this overall but don't like how easily you're locktowning people. Why can't Wimpy use that meta against you as scum?
In post 256, clidd wrote:Three scum are in the unsafe pool.
This is very interesting. What gave you the impression there were 3 scum in the game, clidd?

Mindmelding with most of insomnia's reads. Agree on Ame/Aaron being town.

Doro actually giving out scumreads and pushing people is a very good sign for him.

VOTE: Flippo
Flippo's posted a lot but nothing's pinged me as town (other than the Harry Potter GiFs near the start which were top tier quality).

What'd you think of clidd's wall, Flippo? And has your read on Ame changed since wanting to quicklynch her?
i have absolutely no feelings towards clidds wall post. its kinda just there to me. i like that hes getting engaged, i think thats about it.

well i dont sr her as hard but im comfortable with my vote on her for now. i doubt we'll have a LOLhammer. i think the alcohol at the time was making me sr her alot harder lol. i still dont like that luca went from a tr to a scum++ & i also still dont like the insomnia tr then vote then immediately switching to me a couple post later, it just seems fishy which is probably the reason i started to sr insom at the time

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:10 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 307, Wimpy wrote:Shocker the two spam posters spam post so much they ignore content. Yes I have scum reads. I’ve posted them and somebody else quoted them.

It doesn’t matter if I have any other reads.


Spoiler:
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Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:13 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 314, Hectic wrote:
In post 308, clidd wrote:I'm considering the scenario where there are 3 scums, because of what I've read so far.
3 scum is imbalanced for town for a 9 player game. Even 11 player games usually have 2 scum. Are you saying 3 scum because too many people were acting scummy in your eyes?
i feel like the only way there could be 3 is if 2 are lovers or something right?

dk any other scenario it could be possible

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:15 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 318, clidd wrote:
In post 317, Hectic wrote:
In post 315, clidd wrote:Is this information confirmed ? I still have the impression that there are three scums. Yes, basically this.
I don't see it being confirmed anywhere in the rules, but I'd be VERY surprised if there were 3 scum this game. I've never seen a 9 or even 11 player normal with 3 scum.
I wouldn't. In fact,
it would make more sense.


.....how?

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:19 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 321, Hectic wrote:Also, I didn't watch the Oscars because Ricky Gervais wasn't hosting them. Smh.

But I evidently need to watch The Irishman.


ughhhh so do I...... i heavily recommend JoJo Rabbit if you haven't seen it

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:22 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 332, clidd wrote:Determined kamek.

+1