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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:14 am
by Team STRQ
If this isn't a transparent agenda then idk what is

This isn't how he interacts with people when he's town, no fucking way.

-Summer

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:18 am
by Wooper
where was the opportunity to engage again? if it was literally you asking me to put in more effort than I already have while maintaining super underdeveloped reads, yes, I agree

you're also devolving this conversation into something you can be right/righteous about, not a conversation about the game of mafia we are currently playing. I've just dropped another bunch of reads you're welcome to engage with. I've just displayed that wagoning me is ridiculous. but no, you don't feel the need to engage with that because you're currently correct and righteous in this side point you're attempting to force the conversation into

this is a defensive tactic and it is not an attempt to sort me. this isn't a good faith engagement.

pedit: alright how is this scum!me choosing to engage with you this way please explain how scum!me decides it's a better idea to go down a mighty huge rabbit hole of trying to advance your reads and trying to force actual legitimately game related valuable conversations with you at the expense of being cute and likeable

I'm super excited for this explanation

please don't take long deadline is looming

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:37 am
by Wooper
going to sleep now. if I'm hammered overnight gl town. idk who to heaven tomorrow

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:52 am
by Team STRQ
Trying to find games duck has played with me and I've been town:
Oh fuck, it's 0

Nice now fuck off

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:53 am
by Team STRQ
-R

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:17 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
I don't get this why are we getting rid of Whooper on D1 when clearly there is an activity issue from so many others. And actual post.
Lets think about this

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 3:18 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
I should never use this metric as I have one of the lowest posts in this thread.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 4:50 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
Its sad we're heading toward the end and I'm just seeing a bunch of nothing right now. I don't like Wooper today but I don't think we're going to have the votes for it.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:25 am
by Something_Smart
In post 427, Wooper wrote:going to sleep now. if I'm hammered overnight gl town. idk who to heaven tomorrow
:igmeou:

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:26 am
by Something_Smart
I don't want that to be a town post because like, come on man. You can do better than playing the victim and shitty unhelpful AtE.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:30 am
by Something_Smart
In post 399, Ame wrote:On a scale of 0 to 10, how clearly are you able to visualize images in your mind's eye?
2
On a scale of 0 to 10, how clearly can you hear with your mind's ear?
4

These are rather brilliant questions, nicely done.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:34 am
by Something_Smart
Many factors are converging to make me believe there is at least one scum in {pops, wooper}. One such reason is that it's taken this long for someone to FoS me for being noncommittal, meaning scum haven't wanted to do it for some reason.

There are many possible reasons but the easiest one is that they (or at least some of them) know me too well to be able to get away with that.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:40 am
by Something_Smart
I kinda think I'd prefer to see STRQ go one way or the other before wooper does. Leaning toward pops atm but it would be nice to see STRQ and wooper put together a summary of their arguments against each other.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:43 am
by Looker
In post 427, Wooper wrote:going to sleep now. if I'm hammered overnight gl town. idk who to heaven tomorrow
I was more excited to play with you than Amrun was to play with Elmo :(
In post 428, Team STRQ wrote:Trying to find games duck has played with me and I've been town:
Oh fuck, it's 0

Nice now fuck off
Are you upset? If so, why?
In post 432, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:Its sad we're heading toward the end and I'm just seeing a bunch of nothing right now. I don't like Wooper today but I don't think we're going to have the votes for it.
Who would you like to hear more from and regarding what?
In post 433, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 427, Wooper wrote:going to sleep now. if I'm hammered overnight gl town. idk who to heaven tomorrow
:igmeou:
I like him.




VOTE: Elmo Teh AzN

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:37 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
In post 438, Looker wrote:Who would you like to hear more from and regarding what?
I
Yourself
S_S I would like to see place a vote sometime in this game.

I mean I'm happy you put a vote down but I at least want reasoning for this.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:50 am
by Something_Smart
In post 439, Elmo TeH AzN wrote:S_S I would like to see place a vote sometime in this game.
It will happen, don't worry. We still have 2 days.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:25 am
by implosion
Wooper wrote:I dont totally love how he's losing engagement but I also kinda think scum!implosion makes more of this gamestate.
My losing engagement was basically a direct function of what day of the week it was. Had a homework due last night.

VOTE: Amrun

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:30 am
by Team STRQ
In post 426, Wooper wrote:where was the opportunity to engage again? if it was literally you asking me to put in more effort than I already have while maintaining super underdeveloped reads, yes, I agree

you're also devolving this conversation into something you can be right/righteous about, not a conversation about the game of mafia we are currently playing. I've just dropped another bunch of reads you're welcome to engage with. I've just displayed that wagoning me is ridiculous. but no, you don't feel the need to engage with that because you're currently correct and righteous in this side point you're attempting to force the conversation into

this is a defensive tactic and it is not an attempt to sort me. this isn't a good faith engagement.

pedit: alright how is this scum!me choosing to engage with you this way please explain how scum!me decides it's a better idea to go down a mighty huge rabbit hole of trying to advance your reads and trying to force actual legitimately game related valuable conversations with you at the expense of being cute and likeable

I'm super excited for this explanation

please don't take long deadline is looming
In post 427, Wooper wrote:going to sleep now. if I'm hammered overnight gl town. idk who to heaven tomorrow
jfc wooper, cut the bullshit and this hyper defensiveness that has no actual basis behind it.

it's really fucking disingenuous to throw so much word vomit out there in a very short timeframe, and then suddenly just draw back and go this "I don't need to do more, if you want me to do more, then make me do more" attitude, and then get all pissed off and righteous when you're called out on it. I specifically made a reads list that challenged your stances because I had a strong feeling that a town!duck would take that as a good opportunity to try to sort my slot directly, not... [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11631299]this[/u]. You've been attempting to forcibly shut me down from talking to you since then by calling this a "bad faith" engagement

it's like

wtf

-Summer

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:31 am
by implosion
In post 436, Something_Smart wrote:Many factors are converging to make me believe there is at least one scum in {pops, wooper}. One such reason is that it's taken this long for someone to FoS me for being noncommittal, meaning scum haven't wanted to do it for some reason.

There are many possible reasons but the easiest one is that they (or at least some of them) know me too well to be able to get away with that.
Oddly I don't like this post all that much! Or at least it makes me feel things and I'm not sure how I want to classify those things.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:32 am
by Team STRQ
ngl the only reason I haven't lockscummed you for this is because I know I have a lot of games where I read you incorrectly regardless of your alignment

you've triggered both of the things I'm specifically looking for scum doing this game and this hyper defensiveness really just makes it look like you replaced into a game you think you're going to lose unless you forcefully take control of the game

-Summer

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:32 am
by Amrun
Iā€™m behind on this game, catchup after work

You guys have been busy. I was caught up when I went to sleep.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:34 am
by implosion
In post 442, Team STRQ wrote:I specifically made a reads list that challenged your stances because I had a strong feeling that a town!duck would take that as a good opportunity to try to sort my slot directly,
This is kinda... not how discourse works in practice?

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:35 am
by implosion
I'm very skeptical that hyper defensiveness in general would be a trait associated strongly w/ scum!duck. Maybe in the context of this game but still skeptical.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:36 am
by Elmo TeH AzN
I can't do this anymore.
Vote: Team STRQ

At this point No.

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:36 am
by Team STRQ
go ahead and tell me how to get wooper to engage into me then, because at that point I gain literally nothing from engaging into him

-Summer