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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:56 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 84, Yooh wrote:
In post 73, LuckyLuciano wrote:Not much, since most players didn't actually react to it.
So what do you think about post #36?
In post 75, LuckyLuciano wrote:Because I see it as scummy also, and I know I'm town, therefore I understand why town might see it as scummy? This day one is going to be insufferable, isn't it?
I disagree here. Town can townread - scumread someone with many reasons, with or without agreement the other, regardless their alignment. So, do you scumream Who22 here? What is the reason? In your PoV, have you thought about Kirari as mafia and you have agreement with her?
This feels like a townie way of questioning LL here. Floof could of easily been much more aggressive given the huge thread pressure on LL at the time. Further, he isn't skewing the disagreement to insinuate that LL is scum.
In post 210, Yooh wrote:
In post 131, LuckyLuciano wrote: Being wrong is null.
Alright, my real problem is you're playing very passively when you were trying to get reaction. I don't even know why you never ask me asked so many questions. I get you're pressured, i get you're playing defensively, i don't know the reason though, but personally I don't like waiting and watching when I get null reaction.
While the latter have of this is more null tonally, I do like the stance here comparing the reaction of LL to what LL was doing. I feel his read progression on LL is relatively natural compared to others. Reads more to me as someone trying to extract more about LL out of trying to solve the game than scum looking busy.
In post 313, Yooh wrote:
In post 216, HoldenGolden wrote:Feel free to expand the main idea of your post.
In post 272, Aloratom wrote:I'm not seeing a problem. Can you elaborate?
When I read there, I felt like Holden were in the middle conversation, but not contribute enough in those pages. I know that in that time we're lacked of activity (include mine, I guess), but it still irritated me. Like, I think Holden can do better than that. So I conclude that mafia-Holden is doing it purposely or I was too serious reading those, which I think it is the latter.
I like this less upon review since he dropped it and it was admittedly wishy washy, but I feel the read on me is honest. Only Kiari really was scum reading me at the time, and for unknown reasons

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:58 am
by HoldenGolden
In post 409, Kirari Momobami wrote:
In post 403, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Kirari, Holden actually has a good point against you. What's your beef against him?
He usually turns off the meming and starts playing faster and more normally as town. I think the meme/playing ratio here nudges toward scum. also the meming here feels a little forced tbh
We played a game together where I wrote gay erotica of the players day 2 and bet mylo on a pinkie promise?

Is there more than meta that your scum read on me is based on (Ik you say PoE, but analysis wise given my posts)? Have you read the two games I was scum?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:02 am
by HoldenGolden
Show me too where you think the memeology is forced dear wagon.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:12 am
by HoldenGolden
Somebody asked so to clear it up:

Me and Monkey have only played one game before this (mini blitz). I don't know much about him beyond that, other than how he betrayed me by breaking pinkie promise code.

Likewise me and Krairi (wagonomics) played together on my very first game on the site where we were both town. I however have no idea if he has read my games that I've been in since then.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:58 am
by InWho22
Alright, I'll be reading up tomorrow, so these are just quick thoughts before I sleemp.
Kirari's case against Holden here feels very forced.
HEM's contributions still feel town to me, but I'd still like him to just take a moment and consider a scenario where LL is town.
3b straight up refusing to contribute anymore because "well if he can, I can!" is concerning, to say the least.
Also 3b's voting could seem to just be based on who targets him for a moment. HEM, LL, me and Alo, all people who have shown interest in 3b. I will read through this ISO come tomorrow.
(Also by Floof you mean who? And by pedit do you mean pre-edit? (Also couldn't that just be in the post as normal? (Or am I missing something? (Hm..))))

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:06 pm
by HoldenGolden
My bad, for some reason I got Yooh name confused with Floof. Idk how, but it just happened.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:21 pm
by Peaches
In post 267, InWho22 wrote:
In post 266, Peaches wrote:
In post 52, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Peaches, mind weighing in on the drama? It seems we were overshadowed by Aloratom not doing RVS, and I don't like sharing the spotlight.
I dont get it.

RVS votes can provide information later on in the game. Town's strongest tool is their vote. I dont get why Aloratom didn't place an RVS vote. I still want @Aloratom to answer.
Well, apart from that, do you have any thoughts the rest of the game right now? What do you think about LL's recent case against Alora? What did you think of the early feud between HEM and LL? Please weigh in on the game.
You/Holden townlean

I'm not reading previous games to determine someone's alignment.

The early feud between HEM and LL I do not get.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:22 pm
by Kirari Momobami
she lives! Peaches where you been grrrrl?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:24 pm
by Kirari Momobami
In post 429, InWho22 wrote:Alright, I'll be reading up tomorrow, so these are just quick thoughts before I sleemp.
Kirari's case against Holden here feels very forced.
HEM's contributions still feel town to me, but I'd still like him to just take a moment and consider a scenario where LL is town.
3b straight up refusing to contribute anymore because "well if he can, I can!" is concerning, to say the least.
Also 3b's voting could seem to just be based on who targets him for a moment. HEM, LL, me and Alo, all people who have shown interest in 3b. I will read through this ISO come tomorrow.
(Also by Floof you mean who? And by pedit do you mean pre-edit? (Also couldn't that just be in the post as normal? (Or am I missing something? (Hm..))))
I think the biggest concern I have with this post is calling my thoughts on holden a 'case' when it barely surpasses a spicy hottake :P

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:26 pm
by Kirari Momobami
Pedit does indeed mean "preview edit" referring to edits made after you hit the "preview" button

/sehat

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:27 pm
by Kirari Momobami
Holden would my "case" on you be stronger if I reversed it and said as town you should be meming even harder :3

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:27 pm
by Kirari Momobami
Peaches can you expand on your holden/who townleans?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:29 pm
by Kirari Momobami
VOTE: peaches

Spicy hot take this slot is actually just scum

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:38 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 435, Kirari Momobami wrote:Holden would my "case" on you be stronger if I reversed it and said as town you should be meming even harder :3
*insert forced meme response saying no here*

See, I'm helping you build your case by the minute. I should get a medal for that.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:39 pm
by HoldenGolden
What do think then roaches about HEM in the later pages?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:39 pm
by HoldenGolden
Pedit: Peaches

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:46 pm
by Kirari Momobami
In post 440, HoldenGolden wrote:Pedit: Peaches
/sehat

This should be "ebwop" -edit by way of post

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:48 pm
by Kirari Momobami
Damn holden even if you are scum here I'm like lowkey pocketed LOL

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:31 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 442, Kirari Momobami wrote:Damn holden even if you are scum here I'm like lowkey pocketed LOL
I'm simply irresistible


If you want it hun put a noose on it

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:32 pm
by HoldenGolden
You still havent answered my question my boy, you just flicked it off.

I put a lot of effort into those questions.

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:38 pm
by Kirari Momobami
Rvs, and then the non meme content in early game did not seem very townie

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:43 pm
by HoldenGolden
In post 445, Kirari Momobami wrote:Rvs, and
then the non meme content in early game did not seem very townie
Holden is confused and requires more explanation.

You used a post from my early game though a page ago as the example of my most townie post in your eyes?

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:45 pm
by 3bounty
InWho22 * - neutral
Peaches * notme0 - neutral
LuckyLuciano SeserOneHK - town
3bounty
Aloratom - scum
Yooh * - neutral
Kirari Momobami (SE) - town
humaneatingmonkey (SE) - scum
HoldenGolden (SE) - town

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:48 pm
by Kirari Momobami
In post 81, HoldenGolden wrote:
In post 78, Kirari Momobami wrote:
In post 42, HoldenGolden wrote:Rather, it feels oddly constructed as if you are scum trying to generate content. The fact that you soft push Monkey for it when nothing has push the game out of RVS is scummy as hell.
don't like this post
You are more than welcome to expand the central idea of this post
Still worried that your tone here 'scummy as hell' was a bit overblown and scummy, also arguing people are 'scum trying to generate content' feels like a weird accusation

A little bit of the other early game stuff felt more like iioa but most of the time iioa is more null than scummy it just reflects an ongoing lack of townpings in early game

Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:49 pm
by Kirari Momobami
In post 447, 3bounty wrote:InWho22 * - neutral
Peaches * notme0 - neutral
LuckyLuciano SeserOneHK - town
3bounty
Aloratom - scum
Yooh * - neutral
Kirari Momobami (SE) - town
humaneatingmonkey (SE) - scum
HoldenGolden (SE) - town
Monkey scumread here is new info I think? Expand a bit?