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You expressed your suspicion on me in 225, which I partly responded to in 229. (And part of it I didn't understand so I asked for clarification.)

I wanted to see if you're still suspicious of me or if I made you feel better about my slot? And if you still have doubts to clear them up?

pedit: hah, there we go.

I see. But that's how I often am early game when there's little info - I push at the first things I see. I saw Drew being scummy at some points, I decided to vote. Once he claimed Miller, okay then, I'm going to accept that claim for the time being, I was already suspicious of Knightmare, I'll move my vote there. Which is in part why I jumped at your declaration of PraNa* being scum - I've seen accurate reads be made early, I'm interested in starting as soon as possible.

And, I mean, sure, either's he's Miller or he's scum. But considering , I found it odd one would still see the odds as 50/50? And same with mavs, he counterclaimed Miller. How is that still 50/50? Not sure any of this matters, since we have to have at east Drew resolved, but claiming there's 50/50 odds he flips scum is weird.

Okay. I dont see much else needed.
Scum reads: red panda, luca, knight/persivul.

Im more confident of my rd scum read. I may expect better from persivul so my scum read maybe bias.



I don't see people ending the wifom for drew.

In post 408, Persivul wrote:Said it before and I'll say it again...

What will you do when I flip town?

is a scum claim. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book. I used it in my very first scum game here. It didn't work then, and it's still scummy af now. Tomorrow is when we deal with what we'll do tomorrow. Like the vig discussion, it's just a distraction from what's going on now.

+1

In post 386, Drew-Sta wrote:I’m suggesting I die. It’s the only way to clear this situation. If I manage to survive D1, which I won’t (and shouldn’t) I’ll probably get NK’d as it puts pressure on you. WIFOM I know but a clear and sensible move by mafia.

lol post makes no sense, you think mafia will kill you if we don't lynch you so that we lynch Mavs?
If you're actually town then it's in mafia's best interest to keep this thing going for as long as possible.

Well, now that Luca is back.

VOTE: Drew

In post 381, mavsfan41 wrote:@ George and Drew: why are you guys playing with different miller rules for Drew (saying he should be vig’ed or the obv NK) and me (pushing for my own lynch day 2 seemingly regardless of the Drew flip)?

I said he should be vig'd when I thought Double Miller wasn't such a big deal. I never advocated for your lynch today, and I thought that people were trying to rush the lynch.

I also never said you should be lynched day 2 regardless of flip, if Drew flips red I think you're confirmed somewhat. Seems like a weird gambit for scum to do so early.

Thanks for the game guys. I'll be watching closely. Go team. I hope you're not scum farside - I'll lose hope in humanity if you are.

Someone clinch it and put me out of my misery.

I'll get the beer and Doritos ready

Beer and Doritos sounds like a good night.

And I was asking Farside about her earlier "what would happen if Drew flipped Green" because I wanted to know her commitment to the impossibility of a double Miller.

In post 354, mavsfan41 wrote:I can’t believe I’m saying this... but might there be two millers?

For this exact reason. Oh, so now it's a possibility? I have a bad feeling this will flip green after this backpedaling. But only one way to find out.

Hmm, I was legit expecting a self-hammer.

In post 433, GeorgeBailey wrote:And I was asking Farside about her earlier "what would happen if Drew flipped Green" because I wanted to know her commitment to the impossibility of a double Miller.

In post 354, mavsfan41 wrote:I can’t believe I’m saying this... but might there be two millers?

For this exact reason. Oh, so now it's a possibility? I have a bad feeling this will flip green after this backpedaling. But only one way to find out.

With mav's last few posts, I do wonder if he is scum throwing a massive hail mary. I doubt it, but it's possible.

And I believe that because mavs is desperately making a case for his ongoing life despite the ambiguity he poses from a town-loyalty point of view.

If people are completely against two millers, then when I flip town, the same scrutiny needs to apply to him. The same arguments used to lynch me remain when I flip town and he is (presumably) alive D2. Which is why I keep saying if I die, he should be NK'd as it will clear that problem up for town without losing a day.

In saying that, I doubt scum will kill him (if he is actually town) as they can hit another townie and likely get mavs lynched D2 without much effort.

So, all over to you guys. Enjoy that little Rubik's Cube!

In post 431, Drew-Sta wrote:Thanks for the game guys. I'll be watching closely. Go team. I hope you're not scum farside - I'll lose hope in humanity if you are.

Someone clinch it and put me out of my misery.

I'll get the beer and Doritos ready

*torch held for humanity*

In post 433, GeorgeBailey wrote:And I was asking Farside about her earlier "what would happen if Drew flipped Green" because I wanted to know her commitment to the impossibility of a double Miller.

In post 354, mavsfan41 wrote:I can’t believe I’m saying this... but might there be two millers?

For this exact reason. Oh, so now it's a possibility? I have a bad feeling this will flip green after this backpedaling. But only one way to find out.

I felt that for a moment but i swear if people start that and drew does flip town. There better be something more then disbelief of 2 miller wifom.
More push, better reasons are definitely required

Well, here goes nothing.
VOTE: Drew-Sta

Were you really a Miller?

Yes, yes I was.

Enjoy peeps! I look forward to watching this pan out.

And just in case - my only good gut-scumread is Tanner.
Luca is acting not-obviously-towny in my eyes, but that can change quickly in a day or a half, so that isn't a very strong read yet.

And based on what drew flips, I really still think mavs has to go.
Either D2, or at least soon after.
Don't delay it until MyLo/LyLo even if it's a scary thought to go two mislynches deep in the start - towns have bounced back from worse - but having a claimed Miller in a potential 2-Miller setup just hanging around is way too much WIFOM for anyone to really solve a LyLo.

In post 439, Drew-Sta wrote:Yes, yes I was.

Enjoy peeps! I look forward to watching this pan out.

Then quickly, if you may, give me your two sturdiest townreads for now?

Farside is the only one I felt comfortable with.

OK, that's a bit of a surprise for me.

Pers has some merit in what he said. I think he just couldn't consider that I would be miller and what that potentially mean - scum CC'ing or two-miller game.

Put Mav's under pressure. He needs to be critically looked at. I'm not convinced he's scum, but it's quite possible.

In post 444, Drew-Sta wrote:Pers has some merit in what he said. I think he just couldn't consider that I would be miller and what that potentially mean - scum CC'ing or two-miller game.

I think Pers managed to put himself in a position where he either really tunneled on an interpretation, or he's scum abusing an easy push.
And I want to make this clear - I'm not saying he's scum for how he played this gameday, but he's not very towny either.
I think he has somehow managed to say very few AI things.

Had you really been scum, I would've had another read on all of that, but I guess I can't get it my way then.

In post 444, Drew-Sta wrote:Put Mav's under pressure. He needs to be critically looked at. I'm not convinced he's scum, but it's quite possible.

This I fully agree with.
If mavs really went for a Miller-CC as scum here, he's a fking legend.

....but deserves rope all the same.

He's prob trolling.

Well, if that's the case then I'm about to look silly.

In post 446, UnaBombaH wrote:

In post 444, Drew-Sta wrote:Put Mav's under pressure. He needs to be critically looked at. I'm not convinced he's scum, but it's quite possible.

This I fully agree with.
If mavs really went for a Miller-CC as scum here, he's a fking legend.

....but deserves rope all the same.

Legend indeed

In post 447, Knightmare491 wrote:He's prob trolling.

Nope. Not trolling at all.