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Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:29 am
by Green Crayons
In post 421, Cycle Men wrote:does it have merit though? i feel like that's a really narrow, forced angle to look at things
when something forms a story way too conveniently i think its time to rethink
hth i honestly cannot decipher what you're saying here, other than the general message that you disagree.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:36 am
by Isis
He's not voting anyone.

Empirically, time and time again, D1 votecamps flip green disproportionately often.

This push seems disingenuous. I don't see why Deimos would be interpreted as feeling heavy pressure to provide content based on his approach.

Like your angle on Firebringer's case seems to diverge from a town thought process in a bunch of ways so it can bend over backwards and push a junkpush harder. Deimos is scum because he doesn't know who the scum is? That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:37 am
by Isis
Deimos could flip red here and I would be concerned crayons bussed

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:38 am
by Green Crayons
In post 426, Isis wrote:Deimos is scum because he doesn't know who the scum is?
You've obviously severely misunderstood something I've said, because I've never said this.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:42 am
by Green Crayons
In post 427, Isis wrote:Deimos could flip red here and I would be concerned crayons bussed
Also

lol

The three amgios who started this wagon does not inspire confidence.

You're just afraid of wagons for some awful reason.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:45 am
by votato
ABR, please come give reasons for this wagon or im gonna have to take my vote away from you.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:46 am
by Isis
It shouldn't be hard to see how it follows from your premises. As a caricature, to be fair.

How would he be playing differently if he was town? He would not be posting analysis at all? Fortunately I don't believe mafia works that way, threads would be very empty if going afk was a trust tell.

He would be posting the same analysis, but getting over the finish marker and hitting scumreads? The reason that's not happening is ostensibly he's not confident enough to warrant it because he doesn't have all the role PMs. That would be a change that benefits scum!him even more than it benefits town!him. Like it's like you're TMIing that he was actually scumcasing someone at some point and now you want him to be the butt of a joke.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:51 am
by NorwegianboyEE
Green Crayons, why did you put Deimos into L-1 with that vote?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:53 am
by Green Crayons
In post 431, Isis wrote:How would he be playing differently if he was town? He would not be posting analysis at all? Fortunately I don't believe mafia works that way, threads would be very empty if going afk was a trust tell.
:roll:

Why do you keep drawing bad conclusions and then attributing them to me?

The difference is not either (1) he's making analytical posts and is scum, or (2) is not posting at all and is town.

What an truly absurd characterization of what I'm saying. Honestly.

The difference is--whilst making analytical posts regardless of alignment--either formulating suspicions and pressing them, or not.
In post 431, Isis wrote:He would be posting the same analysis, but getting over the finish marker and hitting scumreads? The reason that's not happening is ostensibly he's not confident enough to warrant it because he doesn't have all the role PMs.
"ostensibly" is doing all the work here for you.

te="In post 431, Isis"]That would be a change that benefits scum!him even more than it benefits town!him. Like it's like you're TMIing that he was actually scumcasing someone at some point and now you want him to be the butt of a joke.[/quote]No it wouldn't.

And what are you even talking about re a joke. I don't think anything he's doing is foolish or funny.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:53 am
by Green Crayons
In post 432, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Green Crayons, why did you put Deimos into L-1 with that vote?
I thought he's L-3, but tbf I only looked at the last VC.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:56 am
by Isis
In post 433, Green Crayons wrote: What an truly absurd characterization of what I'm saying. Honestly.
Why do you need to clarify that you're being honest when you're already using superlative adjectives?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:56 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 434, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 432, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Green Crayons, why did you put Deimos into L-1 with that vote?
I thought he's L-3, but tbf I only looked at the last VC.
You didn't notice the 3 votes consequently placed just after Firebringer wrote his stuff?
Firebringer's reason for calling Deimos scummy was flimsy to begin with, but then you immediately changed your vote from me (your main scumread) to putting a lolwagon on L-1...

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:57 am
by Green Crayons
In post 436, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 434, Green Crayons wrote:
In post 432, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Green Crayons, why did you put Deimos into L-1 with that vote?
I thought he's L-3, but tbf I only looked at the last VC.
You didn't notice the 3 votes consequently placed just after Firebringer wrote his stuff?
Firebringer's reason for calling Deimos scummy was flimsy to begin with, but then you immediately changed your vote from me (your main scumread) to putting a lolwagon on L-1...
Yes I noticed those 3 votes. they are the only votes on him. I just double checked. He's at 4/7.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 10:58 am
by Green Crayons
In post 435, Isis wrote:
In post 433, Green Crayons wrote: What an truly absurd characterization of what I'm saying. Honestly.
Why do you need to clarify that you're being honest when you're already using superlative adjectives?
Because of how absurd you're being, I felt that the emphasis was righteously deserved.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:00 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 3, northsidegal wrote:With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Oh right. Majority is 7. For some reason i thought it was 5, my bad.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:01 am
by Isis
"Honestly" is an adjective that modifies you, not one that modifies my behavior. Maybe you just have a different way around words, I know the "honestly" tell has poor stock prices but if it had any merit it'd be this usage.

anyways

I don't think I'm being absurd.
I think your case is silly at best.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:04 am
by Green Crayons
No, I wrote "honestly, truly absurd," and thought the honest didn't get enough emphasis so put it at the end of the sentence to make it more declarative. Honestly modifies the amount of absurdness you are displaying.

In my humble opinion.

Anywho.

That's fine. What is votato scum?

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:04 am
by Green Crayons
Why is

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:24 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 430, votato wrote:ABR, please come give reasons for this wagon or im gonna have to take my vote away from you.
Nobody asked you to join in the first place :lol:

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:25 am
by Albert B. Rampage
In post 423, Isis wrote:Everyone is scummy this game.
You're stuck with us :lol:

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:33 am
by Isis
votato is pretending to scumhunt by pretending to be paranoid or doubtful of a post I made about visiting the doctor. I don't think he genuinely doubts whether I misclicked a quote post button on a phone or not but I think he has some conception that pretending to doubt others makes him look town.

To borrow your logic, he never finishes his conspiracy theory to posit why scum!me would do that.

Wait, I'm supposed to be adamantly against this line of reasoning

is this purgatory

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:44 am
by Green Crayons
Hm. I don't dislike the reasoning ( :shifty: ) but it's also just a single post.

Do you have thoughts about other aspects of his play? The three big points that come to mind is his forced scumslipping, human's suspicions, and blindly following ABR. But I think he's just been sort of bopping around other than that.

If you've already talked about it lmk and i'll just iso your post history.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 11:47 am
by Green Crayons
Or if you don't want to do that work that's fine too. Not trying to give people hw.

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 12:00 pm
by northsidegal
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Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 12:00 pm
by northsidegal
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