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Target	Wagon
Komainu (1)	Kitsune (410)
Kim (1)	Kirk (371)
Kitsune (1)	Komainu (412)
Kirk (1)	Kim (423)
Not Voting (3)	Kay, Katrielle, Karma

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. The Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-10 21:47:59).

In post 419, Kitsune Mask wrote:Katrielle why do you feel unimportant?

Your fascination with me seems to stem with your uncomfortability with the way that I speak, but if you look at my play or the actions I've taken I am easily and uncontroversially town. Any push you might attempt on me holds water like a strainer, and I think you know this since you've yet to provide any form of solid reason why it would be a good idea to direct your attention in my direction.

In post 422, Kitsune Mask wrote:Kay, Katrielle, and Karma, what are you thinking?

I have shared more of my process on the events occurring in this game than any other player. Your failure to regard these comments is likely more due to the fact that I'm tonally inconsistent which skews your emotional read of me and causes you to not properly recognize when I am sharing these thoughts. I'd much rather hear your approach on the matter, as I think that's been significantly more obscured.

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In post 423, Kim Mask wrote:i still want Kirk or Komainu

Kirk if all your reads are based on feelings you can't explain, we can't really discern your alignment from them. could you then try and articulate why you vote for me over Kay or Komainu?

Komainu seems to have lost like all interest for this game actually but if he's apathetic then surely there'd be another account too that's waned activity? Kirk fits that but there's no one else who fits that level of apathy, so actually, it might indicate Komainu is town unless it's Kirk and Komainu

VOTE: Kirk

One should be wary of failing to vote another player simply because you think you cannot find their partner. I find it highly unlikely that there is no possible partner for Komainu amidst any player who is currently being scum read.

In post 424, Kim Mask wrote:but then there's Kay as well who still hasn't scumread or voted anyone this game...

she's in the pool as well

In post 313, Kay Mask wrote:I don't scumread Karma per se, but I have a decent amount of townreads outside of them.

why do you townread Komainu and Kirk?

I have also observed Kay's inability to take any form of stance on a matter that requires confrontation, but as I'm looking to press or scumread her, I am reminded that I once town read her. Upon closer investigation of my notes, however, I find the only reasons I have for her being town include her genuine tone and the way she admits vulnerability by submitting the poem and discussing how she is likely to have been discovered by a large portion of the player base.

None of my interest on the way you talk, and it's like, really fucking presumptuous to concoct bullshit like that and state it like fact. You're one of the most political and strategic players in the damn game, and if you're hyper aware you have a mostly satisfied jury that doesn't dampen my concerns because that tells me your priorities.

In post 427, Kitsune Mask wrote:None of my interest on the way you talk, and it's like, really fucking presumptuous to concoct bullshit like that and state it like fact. You're one of the most political and strategic players in the damn game, and if you're hyper aware you have a mostly satisfied jury that doesn't dampen my concerns because that tells me your priorities.

If you're so confident you have a case, quit calling me names and making excuses and let's hear it. You have yet to deny that my play has been absurdly pro-town, moreso than a large portion of other players, not have you discussed the fact that you've asked me for thoughts I've already shared multiple times over. The only thing I've "concocted" here is the only justifiable reason I can come up with outside of straight paranoia for you to have a read on me that is anything other than town, and if you deny even the reason I give you on a silver platter, the final option is the only one I can truly accept. I'm sorry it's unflattering for me to be unimpressed by your desire to push for a lunch on me, but unfortunately I have no desire to flail to your tiny whims. While I'm glad I've impressed you to the point at which you seem to think I have some magnificent potential, that should at no point in time dissuade you from the easiest and most probable solution. Pursuing me because you think I could be outplaying you while I've done nothing but hunt for the good of town this game wastes both your time and mine. Stop.

In post 427, Kitsune Mask wrote:None of my interest on the way you talk, and it's like, really fucking presumptuous to concoct bullshit like that and state it like fact.

You're one of the most political and strategic players in the damn game, and if you're hyper aware you have a mostly satisfied jury that doesn't dampen my concerns because that tells me your priorities.

How does my competency and awareness of the situation inform you of my goals? This line in particular is nothing short of shade for the purpose of defending your ego.

It is a bad sign for someone to keep careful track of how many fans they have, it indicates that is their win condition

I didn't like the clinical and dismissive way you finished off Kuzco, it makes me think you were scared of what he might say

How does shading you defend my ego?

Why do you think I am sure of you?

Why do you assume things?

I think you are scummy because you didn't write me a poem about snow marriage

In post 430, Kitsune Mask wrote:It is a bad sign for someone to keep careful track of how many fans they have, it indicates that is their win condition

I'm not. I can't tell you who is and isn't town reading me right now, and I never implies that I could. I only said my play has been towny in a way that no player should reach the conclusion that I'm not town. This isn't an argument.

In post 431, Kitsune Mask wrote:I didn't like the clinical and dismissive way you finished off Kuzco, it makes me think you were scared of what he might say

Kuzco finished himself. I didn't even intend for him to end there, I was expecting rebuttal not suicide. This isn't an argument.

In post 432, Kitsune Mask wrote:How does shading you defend my ego?

Why do you think I am sure of you?

Why do you assume things?

It is common for players to become aggressive when they feel attacked, in this way you became aggressive and tried to direct shade at me when you felt called out for your bad read of me.

I don't think that you're sure of me and never indicated so. In fact, I think you are unsure of me and for that reason you are having difficulty knowing what to make of the situation.

Assumptions are conclusions drawn without proof, I've presented proof with every argument, the only person assuming things here is you.

In post 433, Kitsune Mask wrote:I think you are scummy because you didn't write me a poem about snow marriage

That's a bad reason to think I'm scum, but you're welcome to it because I'm not going to do something just because you want me to.

In post 431, Kitsune Mask wrote:I didn't like the clinical and dismissive way you finished off Kuzco, it makes me think you were scared of what he might say

I don't think it's ever been made more evident that you read me based on your feelings and not due to any action of mine, because if you were reading me base d on my play, you would have known Kuzco ended himself. Your ignorance here displays a likelihood good that you raced to my ISO to try to gather evidence to support your conclusion, which is the entirely wrong way around to do things.

I misunderstood you

My gut still thinks your scummy because you want to be loved

That is what my heart sings

Do you think Kim is scummy?

In post 437, Kitsune Mask wrote:I misunderstood you

I understand. This happens.

In post 438, Kitsune Mask wrote:My gut still thinks your scummy because you want to be loved

I have always and will always want to be loved.

In post 440, Kitsune Mask wrote:Do you think Kim is scummy?

Not particularly, no. I think she and you are my top two town reads at the moment. It is very difficult to maintain the process with which she consistently seems to approach the game. I will be very impressed if she is scum. I am currently quite torn on Komainu. His lack of activity has been disconcerting, but I town read him earlier because his thoughts were similar enough to mine. Kirk is a bit of an oddball who has pressed pro-town agendas, but disappears into the aether, re-appearing at sporadic instances, and I have difficulty proving to myself he is out of any player's scum range. Kay has expressed vulnerability in a way that no other player alive has yet, but fails to present any sort of formidable stance on any subject. Karma has yet to express vulnerability and was effectively not present during the first stages of the game, only recently revealing any sort of genuine behavior or thoughts. It is interesting to note that Karma's increase is Komainu's decline, though it might be nothing. I am hesitant to push any sort of wagon without significant discussion on the matter due to the result of the previous two lynches. My immediate guess would be Karma/Komainu, with Kay at their heels.

It is at this point in the game I most expect paranoia to strike, and it is of increasing vitality that players are open and communicative about their reads to help prevent stupid mistakes that will be regretted later when an obvious answer is before our eyes. Taking notes and reminding yourself why certain players seemed towny to you has proven beneficial to me, and may be of assistance to other players as well.

I am a kitsune

Lots of my thoughts are similar to yours

A pattern with Komainu is that I feel as though his posts and content arrive at the time they to, where failing that posting or comment by that fuzzy deadline would be a negative indication for him. Kirk's activity has been spotty but lacks this pattern, outright falling off the map for a bit to the point we are ticked at him or posting extra when he has been around some already. When I was re-isoing him there was a point he talked about having already made townreads and having already been accountable and "restated" them but they weren't there. A sort of catchup mafia I've seen partners play as mafia.

Kirk immediately struck me as awkward upon entering the thread.

In post 62, Katrielle Mask wrote:I think I scumread Kirk a little. It's a bit of a gut feeling at this point but I will try to elaborate later.

How are you sure he's not awkward town?

Do you remember back when I thought Kirk was scummy

And people just wanted to talk about Kris all the time

In post 447, Kitsune Mask wrote:How are you sure he's not awkward town?

I am not.

In post 448, Kitsune Mask wrote:Do you remember back when I thought Kirk was scummy

And people just wanted to talk about Kris all the time

Yes.