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votato, it's so cold here without you, come back!

don't worry sleeper

I'm your new lover now

In post 282, Raya36 wrote:I'm not convinced drew is town at all. I hope its not my paranoia getting the best of me but the push on votato/sleeper just doesnt seem natural

Can you, or anyone on the wagon currently please give a detailed description with stuff like this?

Consider me an open vote. Win me over. Show me how it doesnt deem natural.

In post 285, Doctor Drew wrote:

In post 170, Doctor Drew wrote:Explain scum motivation by purposely fucking up a quote.

You(sleeper), and no one else tbf, answered this as well.

And then when Pooky comes in throwing body punch after body punch to you, you just cave and cower and follow him to the next convenient wagon, because uh oh....you don't have the balls to keep trying to push that wagon.

VOTE: Sleeper

Because I kinda like drew here

In post 289, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:in what fantasy world do you not change your mind when it's obvious the person you're voting is the towniest town to ever play this game

Ok so:

Porks playstyle I'm assuming is to shift focus of their scum reads radically I guess it draw out reactions assuming he is town?

Honestly looking at who made leaps of logic jumps here and started to sheep without questioning would be a good place to start finding scum.

In post 421, Raya36 wrote:

In post 417, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 402, SleeperSoul wrote:Unless khan REALLY did resign because he thought he was outplayed, but used the excuse of being overgamed.

Ok guys here's the trick. Let me use my degree here to show you scientifically what is wrong.



This is a bowl. It represents your skull.

You see how there is nothing in it? This symbolizes the clownfestia going on right now. Logic had gone out the window a long time ago. I suggest filling it with something like soup.

This was brought to you by the English major gang

If the bowls empty would you care to fill it?

The density of the bowls are too thick to drill into due to my short donkey height

In post 422, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 417, HoldenGolden wrote:This is a bowl. It represents your skull.

You see how there is nothing in it? This symbolizes the clownfestia going on right now. Logic had gone out the window a long time ago. I suggest filling it with something like soup.

This was brought to you by the English major gang

I have 3x your posts and I've only been playing for 4 hours - you've been playing for 4 days and gotten nowhere. Sit down and follow my vote, I'll show you how to win this game.

1 its beens two days lol

2 quality over quantity. That's why my lover loves me. Isnt that right tuxedo?

3 will you address the scumreading sleeper for giving up his vote bit then asking for him to give his vote to you problem?

Heavensent reads are always fraught with doubt.... otherwise how would I improve my intuition and grow spiritually?

God sent us to learn and grow.... if it was an easy read without any doubt, there would be nothing to learn about my intuition.

In post 314, Raya36 wrote:

In post 9, SleeperSoul wrote:Hey guys, it's my second game! First game is still ongoing in day 1.

My goal this game is to try not to do anything too stupid on day 1.

This post is more likely to come from newbtown than newbscum in my opinion.

In post 27, SleeperSoul wrote:I think https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 5#p5474325 makes a pretty good argument for mass claiming lovers day 1.

This is the post I was referring to. It's very pro-town to claim lovers that way we know who we're lynching and we're on more even playing grounds compared to scum for info. Sleeper being the first to suggest this makes me think he's town.


The rest of his play just comes off as newbtown. I don't see any scum motivation from him.

This is what I like to see.

I disagree with the opening. I think it's a rather NAI opening that is in the ballpark for newbscum to make. There is also the camp of it being a newbscum tell since scum was proven mathematically to great the thread unambiguously more often (which is a stupid tell imo but still).

Do you not see the possible mafia motivation by having the strong townread in votato? Despite the self doubting of it, trying to purpose that you hardcore townread eachother is advantageous to scum in this set up.

In post 429, SleeperSoul wrote:Heavensent reads are always fraught with doubt.... otherwise how would I improve my intuition and grow spiritually?

In post 430, SleeperSoul wrote:God sent us to learn and grow.... if it was an easy read without any doubt, there would be nothing to learn about my intuition.

Step one: Queue Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath and Bloody Sabbath
Step two: Tell the spirits to piss off
Step three: ????
Step four: soild reads
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What I'm getting at is you are making a theater of it at this point. Anytime someone mentions something, you publically declare this self doubt. Furthermore, you implying doubt into the thread via asking him to come post in the thread and other stuff like that.

You sound like you are trying to be paranoid rather than actually are paranoid

In post 427, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 282, Raya36 wrote:I'm not convinced drew is town at all. I hope its not my paranoia getting the best of me but the push on votato/sleeper just doesnt seem natural

Can you, or anyone on the wagon currently please give a detailed description with stuff like this?

Consider me an open vote. Win me over. Show me how it doesnt deem natural.

My concern is that he goes after both sleeper and votato. He states that the pair have good scum equity very early game for very weak reasons from what I can tell. He also jumped on Votato scumslipping which I really can't see how anyone could think that. All that happened was he assumed a mislynch D1. Votato votes drew for pushing 2 people in the same pair since they can't possibly be scum together and then drew votes Votato for misrepping him.

The argument I do really agree with is that votato could be very easily manipulating Sleeper right now and I'm honestly really getting that feeling from them right now. Especially since they're calling each other pure town and stuff like that with very little basis.

I'll be honest though I'm kind of liking votato/sleeper more because of that reason. Drew has been consistent. I'll give him that. And their lynch should definitely give us loads of info about drew and also bear too

In post 428, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 421, Raya36 wrote:

In post 417, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 402, SleeperSoul wrote:Unless khan REALLY did resign because he thought he was outplayed, but used the excuse of being overgamed.

Ok guys here's the trick. Let me use my degree here to show you scientifically what is wrong.



This is a bowl. It represents your skull.

You see how there is nothing in it? This symbolizes the clownfestia going on right now. Logic had gone out the window a long time ago. I suggest filling it with something like soup.

This was brought to you by the English major gang

If the bowls empty would you care to fill it?

The density of the bowls are too thick to drill into due to my short donkey height

don't worry, I just gave you a boost

In post 432, HoldenGolden wrote:

In post 429, SleeperSoul wrote:Heavensent reads are always fraught with doubt.... otherwise how would I improve my intuition and grow spiritually?

In post 430, SleeperSoul wrote:God sent us to learn and grow.... if it was an easy read without any doubt, there would be nothing to learn about my intuition.

Step one: Queue Black Sabbath's Black Sabbath and Bloody Sabbath
Step two: Tell the spirits to piss off
Step three: ????
Step four: soild reads
==================
What I'm getting at is you are making a theater of it at this point. Anytime someone mentions something, you publically declare this self doubt. Furthermore, you implying doubt into the thread via asking him to come post in the thread and other stuff like that.

You sound like you are trying to be paranoid rather than actually are paranoid

It's more that I was feeling town's paranoia at the time... I'm not really paranoid about votato right now and I'm reading you very townie. I wish I had what it takes to convince you logically. I think your heart is in the right place.

holden is such a donkey i can't bring myself to read his posts I like fall asleep when I'm about 4 words in

if drew flips scum holden is like 75% his scumbuddy

actually holden could just be a terrible town player

let's lynch scumDrew already guys what r we waiting for

In post 431, HoldenGolden wrote: Do you not see the possible mafia motivation by having the strong townread in votato? Despite the self doubting of it, trying to purpose that you hardcore townread eachother is advantageous to scum in this set up.

I see that but the reason I'm not considering it is it's far more likely for votato to be manipulating him than the other way around where he's very new

In post 439, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:let's lynch scumDrew already guys what r we waiting for

I will go find the mod and have him change my alignment, so then maybe you get your wish.

Ok so,

Ray I will respond to your counter arguement soonish. I'm getting unhinged and dont wish to pollute the thread in more bowl posts. Despite taking a shower literally an hour ago, I've earned the right to a bubble bath as my brain processes this real quick.

In post 435, SleeperSoul wrote:It's more that I was feeling town's paranoia at the time... I'm not really paranoid about votato right now and I'm reading you very townie. I wish I had what it takes to convince you logically. I think your heart is in the right place.

In post 336, SleeperSoul wrote:

You guys

are right to be concerned though

^^^ Me feeling town's paranoia about votato more than my own.

I had a bad day, I took a nap. What did you people do you?

Holden is Golden. I still need to hear from Votato for reasons.

@Sleeper I thought Votato said you two know each other IRL. Is that true, or did I imagine that?

If we lived in a world where Drew isn't scum because I don't think we do, who is scum? Also what's the votes on Drew right now? Also Ray where are you voting and why?

In post 444, Tuxedo Mask wrote: @Sleeper I thought Votato said you two know each other IRL. Is that true, or did I imagine that?

Not in life.

Yes or no is preferred.

In post 446, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Yes or no is preferred.

Sorry, the technical answer is no.... But maybe you were imagining one of our other lives together?

In post 444, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I had a bad day, I took a nap. What did you people do you?

Holden is Golden. I still need to hear from Votato for reasons.

@Sleeper I thought Votato said you two know each other IRL. Is that true, or did I imagine that?

If we lived in a world where Drew isn't scum because I don't think we do, who is scum? Also what's the votes on Drew right now? Also Ray where are you voting and why?

I worked, went to the bar for a beer or two(no need to worry because here in CT we now have a negative infection rate, best in the country to be exact), now here we are.

I thought Ray was voting me? Maybe not though......I am curious on the votes on me as well, and when the day ends.

And, are you hedging your bets on me being scum?

'Drew is totally scum, but if he isn't....where should I vote?'

Pre Edit: I need the drugs you have Sleeper.

In post 444, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I had a bad day, I took a nap. What did you people do you?

Holden is Golden. I still need to hear from Votato for reasons.

@Sleeper I thought Votato said you two know each other IRL. Is that true, or did I imagine that?

If we lived in a world where Drew isn't scum because I don't think we do, who is scum? Also what's the votes on Drew right now? Also Ray where are you voting and why?

I can't decide between votato and drew. I think one of the two are likely scum. But I need to be fully convinced on Drew to vote myself out too but I will. I want to hear from Votato and see if it's likely sleeper is pocketed