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Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:24 am
by Raya36
In post 421, Nosferatu wrote:
just a preference
ItalianoVD wrote:
I don’t know if it’s only a scum based action, but definitely anti-town. On that note
@Nosferatu: what purpose does it serve besides ATE? Which is not helping town, but helping yourself? With the numbers the way it is a townie elimination on Day 1 will not break or lose the game for town. I know play styles/personality have a lot to do with how players react to pressure and wagons being formed on them, etc., but your action seemed fake and forced (scum) or at the very least bad unhelpful play (townie)
i literally wanted to just get eliminated to spite the town lol ive done it as scum for AtE but its never been called out as such its not really all that deep
Raya36 wrote:
How was that a dodge? You self-voted, I find self-votes to be scummy. You're frustrating read as fake
i literally didn't ask your opinion on self-votes
the fact that you feel the need to back up ur opinion after i call ur post scummy is v interesting
I can see it the same way as you. Calling my post a dodge felt like deflection.
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:25 am
by Nosferatu
a deflection from what
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:25 am
by BananaCucho
In post 423, Raya36 wrote:
That's true. Ok self votes are always anti-town. And I read this particular time as scummy
The day is so early though. Why is this scummy in this instance? What's the play? There's till so much time left for day 1, his lunch is in no way a forgone conclusion
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:26 am
by Raya36
A deflection from me calling your self vote scummy. I call your self vote scummy and you say me calling it that is scummy. Deflection.
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:27 am
by Raya36
In post 427, BananaCucho wrote: In post 423, Raya36 wrote:
That's true. Ok self votes are always anti-town. And I read this particular time as scummy
The day is so early though. Why is this scummy in this instance? What's the play? There's till so much time left for day 1, his lunch is in no way a forgone conclusion
No but he's building up a wagon and suspicion so he could easily have faked the frustration (with the self vote to emphasize) to appear more town
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:28 am
by Nosferatu
Raya36 wrote:A deflection from me calling your self vote scummy. I call your self vote scummy and you say me calling it that is scummy. Deflection.
in what way is that deflection
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:30 am
by Nosferatu
you call my post scummy --> i call your post scummy --> you make an absolutist statement that cannot be engaged with
who broke off the discussion? i think its u here
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:31 am
by BananaCucho
In post 429, Raya36 wrote: In post 427, BananaCucho wrote: In post 423, Raya36 wrote:
That's true. Ok self votes are always anti-town. And I read this particular time as scummy
The day is so early though. Why is this scummy in this instance? What's the play? There's till so much time left for day 1, his lunch is in no way a forgone conclusion
No but he's building up a wagon and suspicion so he could easily have faked the frustration (with the self vote to emphasize) to appear more town
The frustration feels genuine though - this whole thing started over basically nothing, pushed by Frog and then multiple people have piled on
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:31 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 417, BananaCucho wrote:Am I the only one that thinks that is townreading Nos? I don't understand the scumreads on him and the votes on him feel opportunistic at best
I don't townread him myself but I also think the wagon on him isn't good, for probably what you've already expressed
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:33 am
by Gamma Emerald
I think I want to add banana to my townblock
I also kinda like post 421 as a town post
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:34 am
by Gamma Emerald
In post 428, Raya36 wrote:A deflection from me calling your self vote scummy. I call your self vote scummy and you say me calling it that is scummy. Deflection.
I think I know what you're trying to say, don't particularly agree, but it's not exactly a bad logic
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:35 am
by BananaCucho
VOTE: Italiano
This guy pinged me like super opportunistic in my catchup. Wagon jumping like crazy, jumping on Nos for being "unhelpful and pointless" (weak vote) and then to call as that wagon seemed to be building as well
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:36 am
by geraintm
In post 416, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 398, geraintm wrote:@RCenigma - you have call for judgement as scum, but you have just killed Gamma??
Sorry, no clue what this means. What is dayvig? Gamma is killed?
I assume so, I see no reason for them to lie. I'm just waiting for mod to turn up
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:37 am
by Nosferatu
o/ gamma
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:42 am
by Gamma Emerald
what's up Nosf?
Also that last post by geraint is kinda sketchy
tbh I kinda thought they were a newb but I was thinking about how that would impact this thought, checked, and they have been active in normal games recently, so the idea of the lost townie who might be just taking things at face value doesn't really apply
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:44 am
by Raya36
In post 431, Nosferatu wrote:you call my post scummy --> i call your post scummy --> you make an absolutist statement that cannot be engaged with
who broke off the discussion? i think its u here
Its deflection because after calling your post scummy you immediately call mine scummy too. And it wasnt an absolutist statement considering people are arguing with me
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:45 am
by Raya36
In post 432, BananaCucho wrote: In post 429, Raya36 wrote: In post 427, BananaCucho wrote: In post 423, Raya36 wrote:
That's true. Ok self votes are always anti-town. And I read this particular time as scummy
The day is so early though. Why is this scummy in this instance? What's the play? There's till so much time left for day 1, his lunch is in no way a forgone conclusion
No but he's building up a wagon and suspicion so he could easily have faked the frustration (with the self vote to emphasize) to appear more town
The frustration feels genuine though - this whole thing started over basically nothing, pushed by Frog and then multiple people have piled on
Maybe I should reread but it came off as fake on my first read
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:47 am
by Nosferatu
In post 440, Raya36 wrote: In post 431, Nosferatu wrote:you call my post scummy --> i call your post scummy --> you make an absolutist statement that cannot be engaged with
who broke off the discussion? i think its u here
Its deflection because after calling your post scummy you immediately call mine scummy too. And it wasnt an absolutist statement considering people are arguing with me
you literally said "self-votes are always scummy".
that is by definition an absolutist statement
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:49 am
by Raya36
In post 435, Gamma Emerald wrote: In post 428, Raya36 wrote:A deflection from me calling your self vote scummy. I call your self vote scummy and you say me calling it that is scummy. Deflection.
I think I know what you're trying to say, don't particularly agree, but it's not exactly a bad logic
Well good to know that I'm not going crazy
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:51 am
by ItalianoVD
In post 422, BananaCucho wrote:Tone feels town, I have also done the exact same thing as town multiple times myself in the past.
I respect that. I actually did it myself in two games I’ve played here, but was told it was stupid and anti-town, so when I see, I assume that’s what it is.
In post 422, BananaCucho wrote:Mainly, I don't see the play here from a scum POV. Especially with the self vote. I understand the "AtE" argument but it feels like suboptimal play, he could just attempt to brush off the criticism as scum instead of going ham like this and self voting
I see. Have you played with Nosferatu as both alignments?
In post 424, Nosferatu wrote:if i was scum i probs would've waited for like a couple more votes before throwing a tantrum what was i at like 2-3 votes lmao?
When people say this, I never get with it. People say this all time and expect the town to just say “oh okay, if you said it, it has to be true”. I’m saying it can be faked, however, I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:51 am
by Nosferatu
waving goodbye before the mod comes and you die :(
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:52 am
by Gamma Emerald
okay does no one know how the role rules work rn
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:53 am
by Gamma Emerald
honestly I'm just waiting for cfj to come in because I'm 100% sure he knows what I'm talking about
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:02 am
by BananaCucho
In post 444, ItalianoVD wrote:
In post 422, BananaCucho wrote:Mainly, I don't see the play here from a scum POV. Especially with the self vote. I understand the "AtE" argument but it feels like suboptimal play, he could just attempt to brush off the criticism as scum instead of going ham like this and self voting
I see. Have you played with Nosferatu as both alignments?
I haven't played with anyone here
Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:03 am
by BananaCucho
Oh lmao it was a wave
o7 we salute you gamma, so long
