Mini Normal 2163: MItGBSMoD [scum pt]

[shellyc]

*highkey stupid autocorrect

go for it if you want, don’t make it seem like you’re waiting too long. improvisation is our ammunition

[Menalque]

No, but i can point to my scepticism around the kerset claim to support it + like, general positioning

[Menalque]

Also, I think I can actually wait a little bit and when I claim say I was reaction fishing

[shellyc]

yeeeeah but this

innocentvillager [7]: Tayl0r Swift, PlusJOYED, osuka, innocentvillager, teacher, NDMath, Ydrasse [HAMMER]
teacher [2]: Kerset, bob3141
PlusJOYED [2]: Andresvmb,

Menalque

Kerset [2]: Saudade, shellyc

Not Voting [0]:

you weren’t at kerset EOD1

[shellyc]

so you were waiting for reactions/rolefishing scum or something

hmmm

[Menalque]

Nah, I mean when kerset claimed I doubted his claim and asked if he was gated somehow which he confirmed

I can say it’s because I wasn’t sure if there would be another protective but the gated thing made me feel like it was more likely

[Menalque]

The other option is that I claim a softclear on plus, we kill you, then I no kill and we elim plus tomorrow

[Menalque]

Oh wait, maybe this game is a draw if we don’t get an elim on town today

what happens if there’s one mafia player left and a full commuter?

[shellyc]

Isn’t endgame = 50% or something

Yeah gates is a pretty cool interaction I think we shouldn’t stall this out to 3p

[Datisi]

Oh wait, maybe this game is a draw if we don’t get an elim on town today

what happens if there’s one mafia player left and a full commuter?

i am 99.9% sure that is a mafia victory, but i am going to ping implo anyway

[Datisi]

if the only two people alive are a town commuter and a mafia member, the mafia wins.

[Menalque]

Isn’t endgame = 50% or something

Yeah gates is a pretty cool interaction I think we shouldn’t stall this out to 3p

normally but it depends on what you see as technically being your wincon: if the idea is that 50% is the win, that's one thing. but I personally generally consider it to be the case that achieving 50% is just shorthand for what inevitably happens afterwards (you NK and then use your majority to eliminate all remaining town). in the case that the true mafia wincon is 'eliminate all townies' then a commuter vs a mafia would be a draw because in the days you'd crossvote, and at night the mafia member would never be able to make a kill

[shellyc]

i don't think that osuka was wrong inherently about shelly being scum but plus feels safer for me personally.

*eyebrows moment*
please do it the longer this stalls out the more and more paranoid I get

[Menalque]

wellllll we're going for it

[Menalque]

sorry, the thing about being busy this week is real, I don't lie about that sort of thing, and it's made it a little difficult to make the claim in case I need to defend it

[Menalque]

Shelly we can quickhammer if you’re around

[Menalque]

Quickhammer rules still dumb

All games need to have the “i and all members of my team known to me vote X and win the game”

I might make a thread in GD about that postgame

[shellyc]

really sorry that I missed the opportunity we could have won there

jailer claim was good I think math and ydrasse are hammering this any day

[shellyc]

I am impressed that town is not ISOing people and are just chilling?

this is the slowest (in pace and amount of work done by town) lylo ive ever been in

[Menalque]

that's partly intentional though, right

we've deliberately cultivated a lylo where the player probably most generally perceived as town is scum, and in general without a town leader things go much more slowly. ydrasse is kinda trying to step into that role with her reread, but also my being slow with the claim really helped to kill momentum by stalling out the start of the day. everyone is a feeling a little bit of apathy about your 1v1 with plus too, I'd imagine

also, don't worry about missing the quickhammer opportunity, you were asleep lol

also also, I think that we probably do kill plus today and even if we don't, I like the odds of my JK claim seeing out the end of the game in combination with a no-kill tomorrow night

[shellyc]

if andres wasnt killed they would have led town which is pretty good for us

so right now we just stall out things until math/ydrasse gets impatient and votes plus finally

[Menalque]

so right now we just stall out things until math/ydrasse gets impatient and votes plus finally

pretty much exactly + I make sure I'm around enough to keep anyone from worrying about me, and you keep around trying to sell you!town and plus!scum (but not like, with too much desperation)

[Menalque]

I feel sorry for plus, I feel like he’s played super well and actually is presenting as very townie today but the remaining town just can’t quite see it?

[shellyc]

yeeeah plus trusting osuka in an alternate universe could be a townblock.

@plus your ISO is actually very decent just logical inconsistencies and trajectories are things for me to push on.

i guess we take the win by sheer WIM now here with all town apathetic

[shellyc]

Oh also, to spite shellyc (pretty sure she is aussie time), I'm gonna self vote in 23 hours so she doesn't get the win on the day of her joindate + 3 months

NO

you ruined it that would be so poetic