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Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:47 am
by NorwegianboyEE
In post 422, VFP wrote:T3 should know what my gripe with Grampa is here if town.
Can you explain it to us plebeians that are not chummies with you or T3?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:48 am
by alstroemerial
Okay, fair, but do you at least agree that if we all did it we'd be in a bit of a problem?
How about specific questions instead of general please for content? Early in the game you gave town reads on Grandpa as well as Zyla and T3 to a lesser extent. Since then you've changed your stance on Grandpa for reasons you outlined recently. Are your opinions on Zyla and T3 still the same?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:48 am
by alstroemerial
EBWOP: This was directed at VFP

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:50 am
by VFP
In post 423, T3 wrote:From the aliensitter game?
This game.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:51 am
by VFP
In post 425, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 422, VFP wrote:T3 should know what my gripe with Grampa is here if town.
Can you explain it to us plebeians that are not chummies with you or T3?
I will.
I want T3 and Grampa to add input first though.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:52 am
by T3
In post 428, VFP wrote:
In post 423, T3 wrote:From the aliensitter game?
This game.
I mean like you sred grandpa by meta because he was scum in the aliensittergame.
Honestly I do not know.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:55 am
by VFP
In post 426, alstroemerial wrote:Okay, fair, but do you at least agree that if we all did it we'd be in a bit of a problem?
How about specific questions instead of general please for content? Early in the game you gave town reads on Grandpa as well as Zyla and T3 to a lesser extent. Since then you've changed your stance on Grandpa for reasons you outlined recently.
Are your opinions on Zyla and T3 still the same?
I'm going to ignore the bold part.
I don't think it would be a problem personally. Day 1 you have more chance of a scum lim if you all follow the first vote down. Day 2 is when we can get rolling.
If you're not using meta Day 1, you're guessing, and I don't care how you go around to find another path, it's the same.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:55 am
by VFP
In post 430, T3 wrote:
In post 428, VFP wrote:
In post 423, T3 wrote:From the aliensitter game?
This game.
I mean like you sred grandpa by meta because he was scum in the aliensittergame.
Honestly I do not know.
>:|

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:56 am
by VFP
So you think I scum read Grampa because Grampa was scum before?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:02 am
by JamesTheNames
In post 392, Val89 wrote:In before James comes along and drops the hammer on this...
What.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:05 am
by Val89
In post 426, alstroemerial wrote:Okay, fair, but do you at least agree that if we all did it we'd be in a bit of a problem?
Can I ask you to clarify what you meant by "it" here, Alstroemarial?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:14 am
by VFP
In post 434, JamesTheNames wrote:
In post 392, Val89 wrote:In before James comes along and drops the hammer on this...
What.
Missed your chance!

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:22 am
by alstroemerial
In post 435, Val89 wrote:
In post 426, alstroemerial wrote:Okay, fair, but do you at least agree that if we all did it we'd be in a bit of a problem?
Can I ask you to clarify what you meant by "it" here, Alstroemarial?
This is embarrassing but I meant it as a response to...
In post 374, VFP wrote:You call it coasting.
I call it laying low and trying to avoid being scum read.
And the big lag is because :oops: I thought the page bottom was the most recent post, and then I saw the top of page 18, and didn't realize 2 pages of content had happened while I was gone... The pace really picked up suddenly...

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:23 am
by T3
No, but you think he is playing the same is what I gathered.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:34 am
by VFP
In post 438, T3 wrote:No, but you think he is playing the same is what I gathered.
No that's more of a side feeling.
Grampa is trying to use false expectation on me. Buy saying I should know how town Grampa plays is an attempt to manipulate me into doubt. But as stated I don't think I've played with Grampa town.
There's a difference of knowing is someone is playing as town or scum and if they understand the motive that they are going for when it comes to meta.

The next part was about my reads being bullshit or a stretch. I forget the wording but it's the same meaning. I hadn't really gave any reads this game outside of you and Zyla (the Grampa town read was a joke that no one picked up on although it seemed pretty obvious to me). I don't think that my reasoning to you and Zyla were bad or out there.
If Grampa means from our last game, my reasoning was right and it helped in getting his scum buddy to be the lim. It wasn't even really out there.
So again, this is just an attempt to mix AtE with manipulation. This is what Grampa basically did last game as scum, while the game I replaced in with dead Grampa, he wasn't like this at all (I don't want to set this a stone as I would have to re read this so take that minor part as NAI).

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:09 am
by alstroemerial
Hhhhhhh the fact that we went from H-4 to H-1 in fewer than 20 posts makes me really nervous. UNVOTE: VFP and VOTE: Cook due to the juxtaposition of the four most recent posts in the ISO. I should also note that the 9 prior posts don't really have any content besides actually
starting
the trust tell that several people have been ragging on Zyla for.

I'm on team "real life is a thing and so we shouldn't read TOO much in the time between posts because we don't know availability" but it's more the "I'm alright with this" coming straight from a townread with nothing in between, and 380 is something but I don't think it's sufficient.

Spoiler:
In post 123, Cook wrote:TR VFP
SL James
SR GrandpaMo, Val89, MiniMegabyte
In post 173, Cook wrote:
In post 126, GrandpaMo wrote:
i forgot u were someone in this game

can u explain ur reads?
I modded for Scum!VFP. Play here isn't indicative of that play there.
At the time, JamesTheNames gave me
vibes
of scumminess, same with Mo and Val.

Low content and in a quick burst from MM.
In post 377, Cook wrote:VOTE: VFP

i'm alright with this
In post 380, Cook wrote:
In post 378, VFP wrote:
In post 376, Val89 wrote:
In post 374, VFP wrote:I call it laying low and trying to avoid being scum read.
Why is that important to a townie?
I don't want to be the lim today >:|
VFP wrote:
In post 377, Cook wrote:VOTE: VFP

i'm alright with this
This is a dishonourable betrayal!
Inverted BBB's GambitBy claiming Town and expressing a desire to not die to the elimination, Town will proceed to eliminate you.


Then, using IBBB's Gambit, you can then, as scum, draw association to whoever you want so that any attacks made by that person to you, dead confscum, appear to be scum distancing.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:29 am
by GrandpaMo
WTF IS HAPPENING??

why are we pivoting onto someone who hasn't been the focus of the game? When I have done that to cook? and no one gave that attention besides val.

but now look at COOK FINALLY RESPONDS AND VOTES VFP but scumreads me ?

And no one ltierally notices cook's inactivity.

its such a shame.

we are voting between ME, ZYLA, or JAMES. Leave VFP out of day 1.

I think it is a way better strat to leave VFP / Cook / T3 for tomorrow's vote pool

and Alstro / Val / Nee for Day 3's Vote Pool.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:30 am
by GrandpaMo
VOTE: Jame

can we just hurry up and get a lim already ?

im already frustrated enough

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:30 am
by GrandpaMo
this flip will tell us alot of info regardless of allignment.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:31 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 440, alstroemerial wrote:Hhhhhhh the fact that we went from H-4 to H-1 in fewer than 20 posts makes me really nervous. UNVOTE: VFP and VOTE: Cook due to the juxtaposition of the four most recent posts in the ISO. I should also note that the 9 prior posts don't really have any content besides actually
starting
the trust tell that several people have been ragging on Zyla for.

I'm on team "real life is a thing and so we shouldn't read TOO much in the time between posts because we don't know availability" but it's more the "I'm alright with this" coming straight from a townread with nothing in between, and 380 is something but I don't think it's sufficient.

Spoiler:
In post 123, Cook wrote:TR VFP
SL James
SR GrandpaMo, Val89, MiniMegabyte
In post 173, Cook wrote:
In post 126, GrandpaMo wrote:
i forgot u were someone in this game

can u explain ur reads?
I modded for Scum!VFP. Play here isn't indicative of that play there.
At the time, JamesTheNames gave me
vibes
of scumminess, same with Mo and Val.

Low content and in a quick burst from MM.
In post 377, Cook wrote:VOTE: VFP

i'm alright with this
In post 380, Cook wrote:
In post 378, VFP wrote:
In post 376, Val89 wrote:
In post 374, VFP wrote:I call it laying low and trying to avoid being scum read.
Why is that important to a townie?
I don't want to be the lim today >:|
VFP wrote:
In post 377, Cook wrote:VOTE: VFP

i'm alright with this
This is a dishonourable betrayal!
Inverted BBB's GambitBy claiming Town and expressing a desire to not die to the elimination, Town will proceed to eliminate you.


Then, using IBBB's Gambit, you can then, as scum, draw association to whoever you want so that any attacks made by that person to you, dead confscum, appear to be scum distancing.
this is so fucking town. i just rread this. u have the exact same paranoia of vfp going to e-1 for no reason literally reason.

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:32 am
by GrandpaMo
vfp i still think ur town so just look at me day 2 and vote james today pls

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:32 am
by Zyla
VFP
: who were you planning on voting for in ?
Val
:why did you think James would hammer without announcing intent? And would that be coming from Town or Scum James?
T3
: what do you think is the difference between how you and VFP have been playing this game?
T3 and Cook
: the same question for both of you. Why do you think VFP is scummy?

Pedit:
Grandpa
: why do you get to decide what votes are 'acceptable'?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:32 am
by GrandpaMo
i think t3 has way more scum liablity than u

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:32 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 446, Zyla wrote:
VFP
: who were you planning on voting for in ?
Val
:why did you think James would hammer without announcing intent? And would that be coming from Town or Scum James?
T3
: what do you think is the difference between how you and VFP have been playing this game?
T3 and Cook
: the same question for both of you. Why do you think VFP is scummy?

Pedit:
Grandpa
: why do you get to decide what votes are 'acceptable'?
because im grandpa simple

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:33 am
by GrandpaMo
In post 446, Zyla wrote:
VFP
: who were you planning on voting for in ?
Val
:why did you think James would hammer without announcing intent? And would that be coming from Town or Scum James?
T3
: what do you think is the difference between how you and VFP have been playing this game?
T3 and Cook
: the same question for both of you. Why do you think VFP is scummy?

Pedit:
Grandpa
: why do you get to decide what votes are 'acceptable'?
since you asked us questions? why haven't you been able to answer / address my points that i made to you regarding that wall post that was full of manipulative reads.