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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:06 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Boonskiies wrote:Anti, you have no reason to unvote him as town. Jesu is literally like...the only possibility to be scum. Unless you are his scum buddy, there was no reason to unvote. If F-16 was town or if he was scum with someone besides Jesus, he wouldn't have defended Jesus right there. They are both scum!

I never defended Jesus. Wtf?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:06 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Anti, I need your help figuring this out.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:10 pm
by Boonskiies
Going after me and choosing not to acknowledge Jesus in that 1v1 sense is basically defending him. And now, you're trying to buddy up with Anti. If you needed 'help' figuring this out as town, Anti would not be the person you would ask. You would ask Serra or MS, the basically confirmed town people, not one of the people who have a chance at being scum. You're trying to get Anti on yours and Jesus' side so you can get a mislynch on me.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:11 pm
by Antihero
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:Anti, I need your help figuring this out.


well i need help in the form of a pillow over my face

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:17 pm
by F-16_Fighting_Falcon
Boonskiies wrote:Going after me and choosing not to acknowledge Jesus in that 1v1 sense is basically defending him. And now, you're trying to buddy up with Anti. If you needed 'help' figuring this out as town, Anti would not be the person you would ask. You would ask Serra or MS, the basically confirmed town people, not one of the people who have a chance at being scum. You're trying to get Anti on yours and Jesus' side so you can get a mislynch on me.

1. I have acknowledged Jesus so your first point isn't true.
2. Accusing someone of "buddying" is a horrible accusation as it means you are accusing someone of being nice to another human being. Besides I asked Anti because I've played with him in the past and enjoy it. I don't know Metal Sonic or Serra very well. If I'm wrong about Anti, I'll get my best clues from how he interacts with me.
3. I still don't understand how you've reached such a conf-biased level of certainty. Where did this superstrong townread on Anti come from? Why in the hell are you townreading Metal Sonic if you don't understand why he is conftown? Jesus is right about that despite me having concerns about them and that's throwing me for a loop.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:26 pm
by Boonskiies
Will you please read? I've commented on the last page that I understand why he's conftown. And I said acknowledge him in that 1v1 sense.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:27 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Re: #4234: When you are scum, you are less confident and thus you post more...? What?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:32 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Boonskiies wrote:
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:
Boonskiies wrote:Plus, we all know I'm a lazy village idiot. Should be more worried if I'm
not
being stupid and making lazy mistakes/excuses.

False, the entire early game. I enjoy the fact that that was the only spot you replied to. Running out of steam/reasons to get a mislynch on me? Seems like it.

I didn't post much, but I posted often. I wouldn't say I lurked.

You clearly don't view yourself as a village idiot so let's not play that defense.


You're right. I don't. But I completely understand why people think I am, and I do get lazy and make legitimate VI actions.

it's fine to make a mistake here and there, yeah, but your mistakes show a lack of awareness that makes your sudden burst of confidence seem disingenuous as hell. How can you be confident Antihero is town when you weren't aware that he was still scumreading you? How can you be comfortable clearing a player as confirmed town when Serra is pointing out he isn't and you have absolutely no idea why he is cleared?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:34 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
These aren't little nitpicking mistakes, these are things that make absolutely no sense coming from a town mindset and instead of addressing it in any way whatsoever you go "hey I'm just a VI that sometimes makes mistakes!" and still you hold the same amount of confidence.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:36 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:Sorry for the absence, I've had some shitty things going on and haven't really felt like playing mafia. In the meantime:

Vote: Boonskies


His play today seems far less VI and far more just blatantly scum. I would also love to lynch antihero, but I'm guessing that lynch won't happen unless we somehow manage to lynch scum today and a miracle happens tomorrow.

Is this Nacho?

Yes.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:37 pm
by Boonskiies
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:Re: #4234: When you are scum, you are less confident and thus you post more...? What?


Odd, but true. Antihero wrote in a dead thread of one of my scum games without knowing I was scum, "if Boonskiies is scum, I will nominate him for a scummy, because that is the best fake confusion I have ever seen."

Whereas my town game, I tend to hard hard hard tunnel, and am overly confident that I am right with my reads. (when I tunnel, I'm usually spot on with scum, or vaguely close.)

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:38 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:Serra, I don't think that metal sonic is scum: eyestott replacing out of the game because he was spoiled and there are not many reasons for that to happen if eyestott was scum (it would have to be power role information which isn't exactly the most common thing to leak). Secondly, eyestott posted in main chat after he was replaced that he had to replace out because someone said what side would win the game. He has no reason to lie at that point because he was no longer in the game and I can't see bulbazak replacing eyestott scum for that reason, but could easily see him replacing eyestott town for that reason.

Why wouldn't scum Eyestott replace out because someone talked to him about an ongoing game? I have a townread on Metal Sonic's play but I'm not following your logic here.

Scum eyestott is told by a bystander that he thinks scum are going to win. How does this affect the game integrity in any way whatsoever?

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:39 pm
by Boonskiies
The fact that your are able to even see all these little things shows you are scum. You see them because you are scum. My reasoning isn't great at all for why you are scum, and I am spot on with my scum reads, which is why you need to even bring up these little small details. There's a reason that it's you and F-16 trying to discredit me.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:40 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
jesusbuddhavrishnathebest wrote:This line of reasoning would be correct if I considered F-16 town beyond town. I don't.

Why exactly?

Oh I dunno you lynched my strongest town read behind my back and somehow still have suspicions about me???

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:40 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Boonskiies wrote:The fact that your are able to even see all these little things shows you are scum. You see them because you are scum. My reasoning isn't great at all for why you are scum, and I am spot on with my scum reads, which is why you need to even bring up these little small details. There's a reason that it's you and F-16 trying to discredit me.

None of these things are little details.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:41 pm
by Boonskiies
Doesn't change the fact that you are scum.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:41 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
None of these things. You keep trying to make it seem like I've been nitpicking the shit out of your posts the entire game and that hasn't been happening for this entire game.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:42 pm
by Boonskiies
Nope, just toDay. You were WK'ing me earlier.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:42 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
You came out of the blue with nonsense reads and 100% confidence that you found the scumteam, I point out hey that's pretty bullshit and your rebuttal continues to be bad self meta and VI cards galore even though you don't think you're a VI.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:43 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Boonskiies wrote:Nope, just toDay. You were WK'ing me earlier.

The entire day, excuse me.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:44 pm
by Boonskiies
You started as soon as I started scum reading you. You felt the pressure you were going to be lynched and decided to target the easiest mislynch. ME!! ;)

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:44 pm
by Boonskiies
I'm unsure what you are trying to accomplish by arguing against me, really. You aren't trying to convince anyone that I'm scum, or convince anyone that you aren't scum.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:45 pm
by Boonskiies
I feel that's pretty scummy of you.

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:45 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Boonskiies wrote:Anti, you have no reason to unvote him as town. Jesu is literally like...the only possibility to be scum. Unless you are his scum buddy, there was no reason to unvote. If F-16 was town or if he was scum with someone besides Jesus, he wouldn't have defended Jesus right there. They are both scum!

yes because you haven't been scummy at all today!!

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:47 pm
by jesusbuddhavrishnathebest
Boonskiies wrote:You started as soon as I started scum reading you. You felt the pressure you were going to be lynched and decided to target the easiest mislynch. ME!! ;)

I started pushing you as soon as I started posting. My read on you has been disintegrating for a while now, but I'm not sure you'd see that even if you were reading my posts.