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So what do I need to do now for you to see that I am town?

I will go through every single player until this is resolved because as town, my duty is to get you guys to town read me successfully.

I do find it interesting on your refusal to talk about the poor reasonings and statements of your leader.

In post 4249, Nero Cain wrote:We are 3rd party, yes but we are anti kings army so for the purpose of this game we are far more town than we are scum and thus we are helping town to achieve their wincon.

I feel like scum is in a bad spot right now. You have 2 anti-scum factions working with town with several clears so scum have a small mis-lynch pool and I tend to think the majority if not all the scum are in the POE.

And you don’t believe there are things in the setup to counteract that?

If you can win with town, why do you assume the other factions aren’t just faking it?

You think that makes sense from a design setup to naturally have scum at that much of a disadvantage?

but you aren't right. You were wrong on Gamma and you are mostly wrong about Titus and Mastina. Mostly b/c they technically aren't town. So what are you right about?

If you correct kings army reads then sure you can say you were right but you seem more focused on defending yourself than trying to lynch scum.

I want you to convince your anti scum faction that I am town, Nero.

And to do so, I not only have to convince you I am town, I have to convince you to tell your teammates, they are incorrect, because they are.

I am going straight to you, Nero. This is extremely poor if I am scum, correct?

As town, I am actively trying to reach out to make some connection with a 3rd party that says they are here to help town, but from my point of view, you guys say you are here to help town, but you’re putting us in harnesses while you do the work.

Why should townies like myself and likely Mage be okay with the shut out and lying nature of your party?

Morning Mage was 100% correct in mentioning they saw a pairing within Titus-Mastina, yet Titus belittled and targeted Mage acting like they were flailing by doing so. Why?

Mage was right, they are paired. And I see that coming from Mage as townie.

I don't give a damn about your ATE. Hunt scum or eat rope.

nero, do you have the town wincon

In post 4249, Nero Cain wrote:helping town to achieve their wincon.

this sounds veryyy much like you do not actually share our wincon would you like to elaborate

In post 4252, Nero Cain wrote:but you aren't right. You were wrong on Gamma and you are mostly wrong about Titus and Mastina. Mostly b/c they technically aren't town. So what are you right about?

If you correct kings army reads then sure you can say you were right but you seem more focused on defending yourself than trying to lynch scum.

I’m not worried about defending myself at all.

I am doing my duty as town to protect the town and help people see what’s going on.

I was wrong on Gamma, sure, but that doesn’t mean I was wrong otherwise. I didn’t even give reasons to why I thought Gamma was town, I simply just targeted Samantha.

Gamma’s my buddy, you know that, that’s exactly something I would and did do, and Gamma knew I would.

What benefits does scum me get from LIGHT defending Gamma there? You know how I am, I’m always about taking advantage of situations and making myself lock town from gamestate perspective.

In what way is it beneficial for me to LIGHT defend Gamma there, and then claim a role that isn’t provable?

I believe I should be an easy town read for you here, but you’re just trying to plead the fifth to not upset leaderMastina, right? You gotta wait for your order.

I’m not pushing them as scum, I’m pushing them for what they are.

Liars, momentum choppers, and 3rd party.

This is me trying to understand the gamestate.

I’m very aware of scum likely being elsewhere on my wagon, and I’ll get to that.

In post 4254, Nero Cain wrote:I don't give a damn about your ATE. Hunt scum or eat rope.

That’s what I thought.

No original thoughts.

this has been explained like 50 times now.

In post 4256, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 4249, Nero Cain wrote:helping town to achieve their wincon.

this sounds veryyy much like you do not actually share our wincon would you like to elaborate

Good find.

In post 4251, April Ludgate wrote:If you can win with town, why do you assume the other factions aren’t just faking it?

i mean, I did. See me pushing SB d1.

In post 4251, April Ludgate wrote:You think that makes sense from a design setup to naturally have scum at that much of a disadvantage?

it does seem like a kinda poor setup. I agree with Mastina that the whole entire point of the setup is to get the 2 3p groups to fight amongst themselves and let scum blend in.

They don’t share our wincon confirmed, they probably can win without us, they just can also win with us, which is why Titus/Mastina don’t care if they’re lying or not to get rid of me.

I am their biggest momentum halt.

I am their biggest threat to them not winning with Town.

Except I’m extremely easy to work with if you don’t just try to shade or discredit me.

They actively chose to lie and discredit, however, in proven situations where they have been shady.

Do not listen to 3rd party until we have a reason.

I’m willing to look into actual scum here, but even they should move on from pushing me because until they are out of that push, I am stuck forced to focus on this.

And don’t get me wrong, I do analyze other things, but the overall gamestate view I see is what I talk about always.

I haven’t been able to cast my net in this game like I have otherwise, but frankly, I just wanted to coast and solve late game because that’s when I do the best because I don’t carry over biases.

In post 4261, Nero Cain wrote:

In post 4251, April Ludgate wrote:If you can win with town, why do you assume the other factions aren’t just faking it?

i mean, I did. See me pushing SB d1.

In post 4251, April Ludgate wrote:You think that makes sense from a design setup to naturally have scum at that much of a disadvantage?

it does seem like a kinda poor setup. I agree with Mastina that the whole entire point of the setup is to get the 2 3p groups to fight amongst themselves and let scum blend in.

And do I seem at all like I’m trying to blend in?

Convince them to go elsewhere, we can circle back and talk about me later.

They’re info is wrong if they truly have something that “implies” scumMe, because I am town, and Titus has trash reasonings all around the list they made.

Every single reason Titus made can be explained by it’s town me or it’s a misrep.

you are also kings army and thats why you aren't hunting them. Just whining and crying foul on Mastina.

In post 4265, Nero Cain wrote:you are also kings army and thats why you aren't hunting them. Just whining and crying foul on Mastina.

Surface level thinker will be a surface level thinker.

People just can’t comprehend my higher level of play and thinking. I gotta stop thinking they can.

VOTE: April

Goodbye.

I am town.

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doubt it

april ludgate has requested replacement

In post 4267, April Ludgate wrote:People just can’t comprehend my higher level of play and thinking. I gotta stop thinking they can.

VOTE: April

Goodbye.

the "self-hammer" but not-really-self-hammer-im-at-L-2-but-im-gonna-say-im-town-anyway thing isnt very convincing if im honest

oh that didnt age well

FL getting mad and throwing a fit kinda seems like something I've seen FL do b4 but my biggest hangup is that I was asking him to scumhunt and he more or less refused to do that.