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In post 4246, notscience wrote:Did dgb crumb her vax result?

Twice.

In post 4249, skitter30 wrote:

In post 4244, Prism wrote:DGB probably draws the NK tonight

I also doubt this

Call me conf town and tempt the scum.

If scum claimed VT, I'm on it, so I could conceivably catch them in a lie.

Spoiler: They claimed VT.

In post 2894, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2892, Cabd wrote:I mean I'm actually positive that the roleblock was on elements, i deciphered the code.

So we can act accordingly. Not a hard clear by any means, but yeah.

Vaxkiller didn't do it.

I never found the other one, this one kind of confused me.

In post 4251, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 4249, skitter30 wrote:

In post 4244, Prism wrote:DGB probably draws the NK tonight

I also doubt this

Call me conf town and tempt the scum.

Dgb is my top townread everyone!!!!

In post 4254, Prism wrote:

In post 2894, DrippingGoofball wrote:

In post 2892, Cabd wrote:I mean I'm actually positive that the roleblock was on elements, i deciphered the code.

So we can act accordingly. Not a hard clear by any means, but yeah.

Vaxkiller didn't do it.

I never found the other one, this one kind of confused me.

I'm saying Vax didn't roleblock. SPOILER: Because he's not a PR.

If someone is kind enough to give you an extra day, use it well and pick a scum PR.

It doesn't look like we're doing anything anytime soon; I'd really appreciate staying off bork until the weekend. It's about time for me to kick into gear.

Yeah we can wait
Enjoy the holidays everyone!

See you in a day or two!

I just finished a trio of papers I've been working on/constantly dreading for over a calendar year. I'm overjoyed and relieved that this odyssey is over and sharing it with my friends isn't enough. That's all, thanks.

Congrats!

It also means I can now read without feeling guilty that I should be doing something else, which is the real win here.

In post 4262, Prism wrote:I just finished a trio of papers I've been working on/constantly dreading for over a calendar year. I'm overjoyed and relieved that this odyssey is over and sharing it with my friends isn't enough. That's all, thanks.

Oh wow! Good for you!

In post 4243, notscience wrote:I’m VT.

Based off claims and flips, I’m going to disagree with you. I think this setup is in part balanced around the fact that we won’t ever know for sure how a kill is stopped (I’ve actually been in another one of these post hiatus- it was 3x gunsmith role blocker backup role blocker doctor vs watcher n2 alien goon)

I feel like the whole reason you layer these roles so you can never tel why a kill is stopped- hence my skepticism at the existence of a strongman. I think some form of blocking on scum side, definitely, and an information gathering role.

Is this where your head is at still?

I have some thoughts about the design but 1) I don't want to go into them right now, and 2) I'm not exactly the best at setup spec.

bork, do you have opinions on the claims?

my MIL is here till Monday; i have some thoughts but i don't really have time to articulate fully until then

At most maybe a gated strongman (odd or even or shots) but I really think it’s unlikely.

I think it makes more sense for the wifom of “who actually stopped something” which would have happened in the game I referenced if I ever outted, but I gambled that I sucked that game and it paid off.

Probably not gonna say much till prism comes back

I read the bork ISO. They're not powertown at all but I see a few reasons to think he's not scum and the few to scum read him as likely stylistic. I can't really give backlinks since I'm on my phone laying down, I might later.

I'm skeptical of the early interactions with Syr but the interactions with unwnd were great. I'm on my phone and can't easily link but unwnd consciously tagged on to bork's characterization of me, and bork went out of his way to quote unwnd two/three times about me saying "deja vu", "are you me", etc.

All of bork's reads are plausible and progress well. The only questionable one for me is +town. He has a great post later on about Syr's facade beginning to crack but reverts to not wanting to vote the slot. Given that he townread Syr around this, this seems consistent to me.

I really didn't like bork's early game, and I don't like how bork holds off comments on entire slots (ex. With Ben/me Day) for extended periods but I can get over it. Both are likely stylistic.

His entrance into Day 2 as going aggressive on Pooky was fine, even if the back off was awkward this was explainable., but his Day 2 positioning around Ben/DGB were also stellar, consistent, and very plausible as town. I don't really have the same issues with his eventual vote on Elements.

I need a more specific reasons to vote the slot.

I realize this requires cooking up an alternative of my own, and I think it's obvious my instinct is Skitter, but I'll read her ISO next before I decide where to go.

Skimming looking specifically for Skitter's argument for bork I'm just...not really enthusiastic. Bork's timing on voting Elements was very natural. Bork was noticeably lost most of the day anyway after the Pooky meta derailed that (not that being lost is necessarily town), with a bit of aggro on DGB/Ben later.

Shifting the responsibility to bork to sell a better vote is pretty eh when your vote is PoE+gymnastics to justify the 1 in the cohort is scum. Cabd/notscience got their way. Scum was fine with it regardless of who it was because Elements was town. Everything about bork's playstyle points to him holding off, and he did twice actively try to go on the offensive, once on Pooky once on DGB.

Given the lack of a more concrete reason to vote or be confident in bork, it greatly concerns me that you did not take a more serious look at the off-wagon crowd, and your progression on me has been really questionable. You've come up repeatedly with reasons to townread me between my reaction to you/bork Day 1, and unwnd's approach to me. How did I end up dropping down to being with Pooky/Vax?

I can buy Pooky/ffery townreading my negativity and refusal to play Day 2. These are players that have seen how extreme my motivational swings can be. But everything about my positioning Day 2 should have sent giant redflags to people who hadn't-and I think notsci, bork, and to a lesser extent DGB are examples of that.