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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:46 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 4248, OutWorldER wrote:Claiming rooms was a good idea to prevent doubles, no-elimming and trying to win off mechanics alone was not, which was what I in particular had a violent objection to on D1.

I generally agree with Shea that just generally good dayplay and Haschel being a fucking hero was what won town the game and not any mechanical play (beyond the normal stuff like me blocking Blitzo)

I like the setup, I like having open neighborhoods and I wish I could've gotten more use out of it. GG's all-around.
Yeah I kinda started to question the no-lim plan myself iirc
I think my driving people to run a wagon through was probably one of my best town plays EVER.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:48 pm
by MURDERCAT
In post 4245, Thestatusquo wrote:Scum literally had two chances to double kill which they didnt take.
Do you think they should have?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:52 pm
by DkKoba
shea, i think for replacements in the future you should not have them have access to the PTs at the same time.

being able to side by side compare blitzo on n1 and n2 was very useful for m.e

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:52 pm
by DkKoba
felt a bit unfair in retrospect.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:06 pm
by Blitzo
Did it though? I still don't feel like your case was particularly strong and I kinda feel like I died simply because you had a role that could stop me.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's just my take.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:08 pm
by DkKoba
In post 4254, Blitzo wrote:Did it though? I still don't feel like your case was particularly strong and I kinda feel like I died simply because you had a role that could stop me.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's just my take.
i mean there was that but i was not ceasing my push onto you.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:14 pm
by Thestatusquo
In post 4252, DkKoba wrote:shea, i think for replacements in the future you should not have them have access to the PTs at the same time.

being able to side by side compare blitzo on n1 and n2 was very useful for m.e
I'm never going to run a game that requires me to make more than one PT ever again lol.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:18 pm
by MURDERCAT
But what about a totally not normal part 2?

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:21 pm
by Blitzo
In post 4255, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4254, Blitzo wrote:Did it though? I still don't feel like your case was particularly strong and I kinda feel like I died simply because you had a role that could stop me.
Correct me if I'm wrong but that's just my take.
i mean there was that but i was not ceasing my push onto you.
Yeah we didn't doubt that one bit. :lol:

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:23 pm
by DkKoba
still feel dumb for letting the NAI part convince me HC was scum doing a last ditch effort to save themselves :lol:

the rest of Flea's play was super scummy and i should have ignored the stupid argument over the "scumslip"

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:23 pm
by DkKoba
Flea's play there was actually pro-town -> which is why i was like ??? why are u guys considering this a scumslip, there's literally a list of rooms available publicly.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:25 pm
by MURDERCAT
For me it was like, one of them is scum and then it seemed like it wasn't Haschel so /shrug

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:26 pm
by DkKoba
In post 3501, Thestatusquo wrote:
VoteCount 3.11


Haschel Cedricson [5]
Titus Pookythemagicalbear sircakez Mastina MURDERCAT
Battle Mage [1]
DrippingGoofball
WindowsXP[1]
Battle Mage
Blitzo [1]
WindowsXP
Pookythemagicalbear [1]
OutworldER

Not Voting [5]

Blitzo, xRECKONERx, Flea The Magician, Haschel Cedricson, Taly

With 14 alive it takes 8 votes to be executed.


Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2020-12-29 17:05:20)

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:26 pm
by DkKoba
just love that as soon as i replace in im like "fuck u imma vote scum"

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:37 pm
by Alisae
i mean i scumread flea d1 for having bad votes

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:37 pm
by Alisae
i also replaced out because i was fucking up post restrictions and like i just am not good with them and I wasn't having fun because of that.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:39 pm
by WindowsXP
well its not fun when SOMEONE keeps sabotaging them

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:43 pm
by Alisae
i mean like its nice to know that it honestly just didn't matter tho but still

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:53 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 4224, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 4219, Haschel Cedricson wrote:wooooooo go team

Not gonna lie, going from X-1 to eliminating Flea felt so fucking good.
That was such an Ace Attorney moment

Anyway I am so glad I got killed when I did because I was about to blow up Reck’s spot out-of-turn
oh wow look you would've been wrong ab me shocking

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:54 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 4230, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4198, WindowsXP wrote:So 2/4 of the imposters can hard stop town from finishing tasks.
Only if town does something bonkers, like, say, hard claiming all rooms day 1.
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Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:55 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Okay can you not take every fucking chance to be snide

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:55 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 4237, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4231, DkKoba wrote:
In post 4230, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 4198, WindowsXP wrote:So 2/4 of the imposters can hard stop town from finishing tasks.
Only if town does something bonkers, like, say, hard claiming all rooms day 1.
well thats the expected town play most times, did you not balance with that in mind :P
I just straight up disagree and so do all of my reviewers (and several players in this game.)

Mass claiming D1 is almost always a bad idea in a closed setup.
this is correct and anyone that assumes otherwise is wrong

arguing "well you should've balanced knowing there'd be massclaim" is basically whining "the mod didn't balance the game to let us do dumb shit to try to break the game"
shit like this is literally the reason mods have anti-claim balance built into the design

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:56 pm
by DkKoba
not every setup has anti claim balance.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:57 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 4272, DkKoba wrote:not every setup has anti claim balance.
if they don't, they should, and it's the hallmark of a bad mod or a poorly reviewed setup

"why doesn't town just claim d1 and win" should literally 100% of the time be successfully answered with "bc the mod didn't design a stupid broken setup" and anytime the answer is not "bc the mod didn't design a stupid broken setup" the mod did a piss poor fucking job

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:58 pm
by MURDERCAT
I stand by a couple of claims so that people know safe rooms and that you could have multi night tasks or only 1 task is useful. Full claim I don't think was necessary and not having it wasn't a big deal.