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Like I agree it’s peculiar but idk what can be made of it

Ssbm what do u think of my points on galron above

In post 3529, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:she said kyouko was 85% scum to her.

In post 3958, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i mostly looked at kyouko cuz shiki said she was 85% sure that kyouko was scum in the PT after D1 ended.

here's a brief summary of my thoughts on kyouko:

In post 3906, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:like look at kyouko's ISO

she's voting everywhere D1

she's defending house(enchant) when he first gets run up

she votes for Roden and says to sheep her and she'll take responsibility.

She jumps onto the Enchant wagon only when its about to leave the station (6th vote on) with no explanation.

Asks for Hammer Later.

Then d2 she's not interested in SS(Roden) at all, which makes no sense as a progression from D1? If anything you should be more interested in SS since Enchant flipped town?

so after D1 it was said

In post 4251, skitter30 wrote:Ssbm what do u think of my points on galron above

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Ah 2536 was on D2 anyways

Nm. I think Galron got the number from the PT. I thought for a minute Galron had made up the number. But he used it after he would have seen it in the pt with shiki, and once it was fresh in his head it makes sense to use the same number

In post 4235, skitter30 wrote:i'm still having a really hard time with scum-galron, for a few reasons:
- literally advocating for a plan where he dies today
- why does he kill rousseau when he's in a pt with her and they're vibing well-
- if scum but not with ss, bizarre to pump the brakes on the growing ss wagon eod yesterday
- if scum with ss, the sequence of 1821 - 1827 is bizarre coming from a partner
- general townie tone
- when he was in imminently danger of being flipped he really cared abt making sure his reads were out, and cared abt that much more than he cared abt not getting flipped (613 + 619 for example)
- getting the vibe he's the designated misflip

honestly i kinda like what ssbm is saying but like my reasons for townreding her are way weaker, she should probably be in her own tier above ss

- This is NAI
- I'm not sure, but I don't have any reason to believe Galron was solely responsible for dictating the NK. If we were hunting the last scum right now, not the last 2, this would be worth looking into, but we have an unknown entity involved
- Pooky wants to yeet S_S. If Galron is scum but not with S_S this could be a distancing tactic. Taking opposite stances on a controversial subject.
- I think this makes a lot of sense from a partner considering the other wagon is on Enchant. Galron is in a lose-lose situation and this series of posts steers the wagon away from S_S. If the guns did come as a result of the mafia Secret Agent dying, it's possible scum bussed Enchant on purpose. 1821-1827 gives Galron an excuse to not vote S_S. Maybe scum knows something bad will happen later to some of the people that got the guns, and they knew killing Enchsnt would trigger the guns? Maybe S_S has a stronger PR than Secret Agent, assuming that was a PR and not vanilla.
- I think his tone will look how the reader wants it to. He's got that kind of tone.
- possibly the best point for town!Galron here, but I dont think it makes him town
- honestly if you're getting this vibe you're probably just scum whiteknighting. I've been pushing hard for Galron since D1. Cephrir pushed him D2. Sometimes 1 person would join us but Galron wagon has been overshadowed by others despite Cephrir and I's best efforts. Do you think one or both of us are scum that have been pushing for this "dedicated mislim" for several irl weeks? If he's seeming like a dedicated mislim to you, explain why. Are the votes on him bad? Too easy? Or you just TR him?

In post 4256, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:- I'm not sure, but I don't have any reason to believe Galron was solely responsible for dictating the NK. If we were hunting the last scum right now, not the last 2, this would be worth looking into, but we have an unknown entity involved

ok but if you're town, then there's no incentive for Scum!Galron to kill Shiki when she's going to push you on D2?

In post 4257, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4256, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:- I'm not sure, but I don't have any reason to believe Galron was solely responsible for dictating the NK. If we were hunting the last scum right now, not the last 2, this would be worth looking into, but we have an unknown entity involved

ok but if you're town, then there's no incentive for Scum!Galron to kill Shiki when she's going to push you on D2?

There are 2 unknown scum right now. There could be any number of reasons scum!Galron would kill rousseau. Maybe he thought she would realize I'm town and move on to her next strongest SR. Maybe her next strongest SR is actually scum!Galron's buddy. Maybe Rousseau died because Galron thought there was more to her role than neighborizer, or maybe Galron was worried about her recruiting more players into the hood. Then he'd have to fool more players for the rest of the game in a neighborizer PT. Maybe she died because she was widely TRed. Maybe she had a read on another player that was problematic to the scumteam. Maybe she too much of a voice of reason and scum wanted her out of the picture for that alone.

You're assuming that the only factor that went in to the decision to kill Rousseau was her read on me. That's just a faulty assumption and any conclusions drawn from it are inherently going to be inaccurate.

It feels like you are really stretching for things that don't make sense in order to maintain your SR on Galron

why do you think he is scum again?

In post 4258, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Maybe her next strongest SR is actually scum!Galron's buddy.

in the PT she mentions you at 85% scum and she thinks its possible that SS/Enchant was S/S.

Do you think Galron is protecting SS?

Mayb it’s galron and kyouko

In post 4258, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:You're assuming that the only factor that went in to the decision to kill Rousseau was her read on me. That's just a faulty assumption and any conclusions drawn from it are inherently going to be inaccurate.

I'm assuming she recruited Galron to her hood because she trusted him.

Their conversation in the hood is pretty good.

I am assuming Galron would not shoot someone who has fairly good thread control, universally townread and who also happens to enough to recruit her into a hood to solve with her.

because that just seems like really bad idea to me.

I also don't believe he would put that much effort into solving with her overnight in a hood if he was planning on shooting her.

In post 4261, Ydrasse wrote:Mayb it’s galron and kyouko

why would Kyouko spend so much time trying to yeet Galron if she's scum with him?

Wouldn't it be easier for her to just shove SS and have me shot overnight when he townflips?

that was a joke

im sorry its too early in the morning i havent actually woken up yet

am i being a grouch ydra?

you should kick my butt if im being too serious

you have been a bit but that is Ok

In post 4262, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am assuming Galron would not shoot someone who has fairly good thread control, universally townread and who also happens to trust him enough to recruit her into a hood to solve with her.

You're ignoring the third scum if you assume this. town!you does not know who the third scum is and cannot safely assume that scum!Galron would have been solely responsible for the decision to shoot Rousseau.

Galron would tell the third scum what Rosseau is saying in the PT no?

What's your case for why Galron has to be scum again?

In post 4267, Ydrasse wrote:you have been a bit but that is Ok

I hate being serious I miss being fun :[

In post 4270, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:What's your case for why Galron has to be scum again?

Most recently, that he was opportunistic in voting me on D2 and lied about why he was voting me. Voted as though he was sheeping and when challenged on it, lied about the timeline, saying there was a reason all along. Slipped that the guns were airdrops.

In post 4272, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Slipped that the guns were airdrops.

how is this a slip?

In post 2356, Galron wrote:VOTE: ssbm_kyouko

Skitter's making sense.

are you talking about this vote on you?

what is wrong with it?