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In post 4243, Bell wrote:*back pats* don’t be.
I’m mostly just arguing because I don’t understand. I don’t think anyone is stupid.
I accept your arguments.
I just think that Dunnstral’s point is *nuts* because of the aforementioned reasoning and I find the vote by Titus to also be nuts. I also think Thatmaybe Rosen can come up with a better solution.

Though at this point you may be right and it doesn’t matter

Yeah, I was not sold on Bernard outing until I realized how few options there even were. Was considering it, but not sold

In post 4242, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4083, Lukewarm wrote:VOTE: dunn

i had the same thought about dunn's post. i'm not 100% sure it was a slip, but it could have been.

In post 4139, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 4134, Lukewarm wrote:I am of the opinion that Bernard should claim if he exists.

If no one claims masons with Roden, we kill Roden.

If someone does, we kill

Dunn

Klick.

Fify. If Dunn is scum, it's with Roden but that's moonlogic paranoia.

~Titus

A Dunn/Roden team here makes so little sense as to defy belief. I don't think you are trying to solve this game.

In post 4144, T-Bone wrote:

In post 4001, Roden wrote:Yeah I'm not going to bother trying to keep up at this point, 70 pages is too much.

I can vaguely tell there's a wagon on me. I'm claiming Mason.

Masons in a game with also a bunch of neighborhoods?

Sure. Why not? Maybe there's a Traffic Analyst or something.

In post 4180, Bell wrote:Okay, am I in completely different world than the rest of you or are some people being completely anti-town in their approach here?

No, you're right. Every objection to letting Bernard stay hidden is easily defeated by a decent crumb. Furthermore, the mod suggested there is some way to learn dead roles, such as a coroner, and there is also some way to talk to the dead, leaving multiple avenues by which a dead Bernard could expose a liar.

In post 4182, Bell wrote:

In post 4111, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 4108, MathBlade wrote:

In post 4105, Enchant wrote:

In post 4102, MathBlade wrote:

In post 4094, Enchant wrote:If Roden mislimmed as town and scum somehow shots remaining mason at night, we are bonked hard.

Or we aren’t because then invests don’t die?
Like? No?

What point if mafia waltz in mason claim on almost confirmed status.

They’d have to explain how they are masons with Roden. It’d be an insanely high ridiculous bar and they’d have to show crumbs/evidence before this post

So they’d have to be planning it before Roden’s masons claim

It wouldn’t work

Dunn already showed no one could be masons. In fact....

VOTE: Roden

Like, what is this? Who does this?

What.

They're scum. Hope that helps!

In post 4226, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I'm sorry, I actually read Bell as scum by tone/intuition in two places now and I'm going to jump on it.

VOTE: Bell

There are two specific posts which Bell soft pinged red for me which I can elaborate on if you want.

@Pooky

Bell -> scum
Roden -> null

Frogsterking this is not what we are doing right now please pay attention.

How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

In post 4241, Off The Hook wrote:bell what do u think of enchant?

I wrote a joke about compromise limming them when they popped in but given they’re playing how they always play and some people might actually go after him for that I deleted it.

Uh. They seem like themselves. They aren’t pushing people as much as I would expect them to. That’s about it.

Aloofness in the spoilers above, not Town by tone, TMI that Roden is town and unable to empathize with the discussion.



There's a sudden spike in the signal to noise ratio in the spoilers above, 539 reminded me of a similar scum post from another game I played. It's not townie by tone and I'm not sure why, if I had to guess it's because of TMI over Galron being town.

In post 4243, Bell wrote:*back pats* don’t be.
I’m mostly just arguing because I don’t understand. I don’t think anyone is stupid.
I accept your arguments.
I just think that Dunnstral’s point is *nuts* because of the aforementioned reasoning and I find the vote by Titus to also be nuts. I also think Thatmaybe Rosen can come up with a better solution.
Though at this point you may be right and it doesn’t matter

@Titus, this isn’t shade.

I really wish someone would talk to me because I seriously don’t understand pretty much anything that’s happened since I opened this thread recently.

In post 4248, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:

In post 4239, MalcolmTucker wrote:

In post 4006, Roden wrote:Also Malcolm dropped to a scum read after his last response to my post was to basically accuse me of lying but then not push me

Catching up but this is incorrect. Was pushing Johnny

incorrectly

while they were around. Same with Rad. Happy to drop the vote though given the claim.

UNVOTE: Roden

I thought you still scumread johnny

Apologies, I do SR them - brain fuddled up and typed incorrectly twice instead of intently.

I am pretty crap with game mechanics but failing to see why second mason should not be claiming here. As someone who's scumread Roden, it'd make me feel much more relaxed about my unvote.

In post 4252, Lukewarm wrote:How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

Or Johnny or DP. Whichever y'all are willing to vote.

@Nancy, this is basically the two things that everyone is currently siding one way or the other on.

In post 4244, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 4236, Dancing Puppets wrote:I am completely lost now. Can someone explain this whole mason claim thing to me please?

Roden claimed Mason.

Some people think it is a fake claim, and want to kill him.

Some people think that he is telling the truth.

Some people think that his mason partner should out to answer the above delima

Some people think that his mason partner should stay hidden, because "Don't give scum info" is a rule that applies in all situations, and should not actually weigh the pros and cons in the specific scenario (the last bit is me being sarcastic. I know you sometimes miss sarcasm, so wanted to clarify.)

i am a little tempted to let you have your dunn wagon too, i suppose.

My intuition is that Bell has demonstrated TMI in their tone twice now, and they are the high-activity scum poster as well as the scum in the hood. I suggest we wagon Bell next.

Well guys, I think my work here is done.

In post 4244, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 4236, Dancing Puppets wrote:I am completely lost now. Can someone explain this whole mason claim thing to me please?

Roden claimed Mason.

Some people think it is a fake claim, and want to kill him.

Some people think that he is telling the truth.

Some people think that his mason partner should out to answer the above delima

Some people think that his mason partner should stay hidden, because "Don't give scum info" is a rule that applies in all situations, and should not actually weigh the pros and cons in the specific scenario (the last bit is me being sarcastic. I know you sometimes miss sarcasm, so wanted to clarify.)

Thanks yeah, I still don’t get the sarcasm but I agree with the latter. I don’t think mason partner needs to claim atp and I don’t think we should be running up a mason claim.

In post 4258, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4252, Lukewarm wrote:How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

Or Johnny or DP. Whichever y'all are willing to vote.

I asked because of the confidence you had behind calling Titus scum in that post.

And I am struggling to see how you could see Math and Nancy as partnered this game

@Pooky

Ceph -> scum
Bell -> scum
Roden -> Town

In post 4263, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 4258, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4252, Lukewarm wrote:How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

Or Johnny or DP. Whichever y'all are willing to vote.

I asked because of the confidence you had behind calling Titus scum in that post.

And I am struggling to see how you could see Math and Nancy as partnered this game

i was exaggerating a little to achieve mild humor

i don't do associatives until i flip one scum

In post 4254, Frogsterking wrote:

Spoiler:

In post 4175, Bell wrote:Wait did Roden get hammered?

In post 4176, Bell wrote:Why are we looking for their mason buddy when they can just get shot and flip town verifying that they're not lying?

In post 4179, Bell wrote:/:

In post 4180, Bell wrote:Okay, am I in completely different world than the rest of you or are some people being completely anti-town in their approach here?

Aloofness in the spoilers above, not Town by tone, TMI that Roden is town and unable to empathize with the discussion.

Spoiler:

In post 539, Bell wrote:

In post 536, Frogsterking wrote:

In post 533, Bell wrote:That would be Galron’s responsibility, not mine, silly.

I don't think I did anything to piss off Galron, because I don't think Galron has a false sense of entitlement. I think if they appeared pissed off then they are likely acting.

One of my improv teachers explained to us one day: "remember in improv we have four emotions: mad, sad, glad and afra'ad!"

Haha. I must be super depressed today because I didn’t laugh at this.
Uh, probably a failure of imagination, they might not even admit to it or I could be totally wrong. Since explaining your own morality can be awkward. Best just to hide it and pretend it’s something else.

There's a sudden spike in the signal to noise ratio in the spoilers above, 539 reminded me of a similar scum post from another game I played. It's not townie by tone and I'm not sure why, if I had to guess it's because of TMI over Galron being town.

Yeah. The first argument makes sense from a certain pov. Okay frog I need you to listen *really* listen because I’m about to brain dump On you and I’ll be sad if you don’t believe me.
1. I just got here and my first thought was “what is going on?”
2. Always be devils advocating. Make the scum nervous by default believing them. Oh no the miselim is slipping away shut!
3. Always be calling people out. You never know! Maybe you’ll call out scum one of these days and they’ll try to night kill you.
4. See my reasoningmy about. Why a Mason claim is a poor idea for scum to claim especially with a lot of time on the clock.
5. When I don’t understand something I’m just this way and kind of annoying. I need an explanation and a reason and yes, voting a claimed Mason mid discussion doesn’t make sense.

6. I don’t know what you mean by Galron. Or supposing they’re town. I dunno what their alignment is.

In post 4258, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4252, Lukewarm wrote:How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

Or Johnny or

DP

. Whichever y'all are willing to vote.

I still don’t understand why Johnny is scum?

Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?

What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?

As for the aloofness.
Uh. I’m definitely faking aloofness,
But I’m obviously very engaged.

In post 4267, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 4258, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4252, Lukewarm wrote:How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

Or Johnny or

DP

. Whichever y'all are willing to vote.

I still don’t understand why Johnny is scum?

he has a lot of posts and none of them are useful or make me think he's town. :shrug:

In post 4264, Frogsterking wrote:@Pooky

Ceph -> scum
Bell -> scum
Roden -> Town

Why is Bell scum?

In post 4268, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?

What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?

I'm struggling to see any downside to it. Second mason should surely claim.

In post 4268, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?

What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?

a lot of players seem to be struggling with this concept: masons being dead isn't good

they should easily be able to construct an unassailable crumb. like, spell out their name with the last letter of the second word in each post multiple times, or something

In post 4267, Dancing Puppets wrote:

In post 4258, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4252, Lukewarm wrote:How do you recommend we proceed from here?

You are voting Math, is that still what you want?

Or Johnny or

DP

. Whichever y'all are willing to vote.

I still don’t understand why Johnny is scum?

Lot of content but most of it noncommittal, and when they have made pushes I feel as if they've been in bad faith a lot of the time.