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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:07 am
by Nautilius
In post 4274, Titus wrote:The mod did roles, then alignments.
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Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:08 am
by Nautilius
In post 4274, Titus wrote:Naut, your theory violates Occam's Razor and assumes what you describe as horribly inoptimal play. When scum go off the reservation, the usual play is to bus and then keep the nightkill right?
not when they lost 2 scum members in 2 days and got approximately 0 kills off

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:11 am
by Titus
I'm not understanding here. Occam's Razor is still Occum's Razor no. How is it different?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:12 am
by Titus
To me, it sounds like you think I'm scum for something OTHER than the role scenario and you're trying to make everything fit rather than looking at the obvious information in front of you.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:20 am
by Nautilius
In post 4277, Titus wrote:I'm not understanding here. Occam's Razor is still Occum's Razor no. How is it different?
"When scum go off the reservation, scum bus."
Not when they lost a bunch of partners and nightkills already.
In post 4278, Titus wrote:To me, it sounds like you think I'm scum for something OTHER than the role scenario and you're trying to make everything fit rather than looking at the obvious information in front of you.
I think you're scum for many reasons. The role scenario doesn't confirm you to me as town.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:22 am
by Eddard Stark
Day 5, Vc 10

PrideandJoy (7) -
kanyeknowsbest, Tammy, Cephrir, Benmage, The Alchemist, elleheathen, AGar
Garruk Relentless (3) -
Messiah Complex, SafetyDance, Titus
Titus (3) -
Goat on a Raft, Garuk Relentless, Nautilius
The Alchemist (1) -
ooba
Cephrir (1) -
PrideandJoy

Not voting (3) -
Alfred Borden, Shadoweh, Tierce

With 18 alive it takes 10 votes to lynch
  • Deadline Date: 25th of Novemberat 10:00 EDT
  • Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-11-25 10:00:00)


Prodding Goat on a Raft

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:23 am
by kanyeknowsbest
i just cant wrap my mind around scum realclaiming that role and shredding their nk with this gamestate. it assumes such awful play and incompetence..

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:28 am
by Titus
If scum have lost a lot of partners, all the more reason to bus a wild and crazy partner. There wouldn't be many opportunities to gain towncred left. Then, scums could lay low for awhile and let town lead mislynches.

Compare me with GR. He's coming up with "theories" that make no coherent sense as compared to you, who is just completely misapplying Occam's Razor and suffering from confirmation bias. Look at the soundness of people pushing for your particular lynch target. If their arguments are bad, the lynch itself may be bad. That is precisely why I post a lot and want people to pick apart my arguments with a fine tooth comb. He's acting in a manner designed to hammer home a mislynch.

You mentioned confirmed knowledge of my role being accurate. Skipping around the obvious, do you have anything solid along those lines to believe that PnJ or GR is town?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:36 am
by ooba
PnJ is town - stop voting him.

Vote: Garruk
- let's just say Messiah's conviction convinced me.

Spoiler: If Garruk flips scum
C: {SpyreX, Quadz, Garruk}
E: 2 of {Messiah Complex, SafetyDance, Titus}?

And even if I'm wrong about E\C and it's just C- Garruk still decent bet for SpyreX,Quadz scumbuddy

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:42 am
by kanyeknowsbest
ooba whys pnj town?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:46 am
by ooba
In post 4284, kanyeknowsbest wrote:ooba whys pnj town?
Vibe - his reactions\posting. The quadz thing yesterday didnt seem like scum-scum - I esp. don't see quadz scum acting like that.
Garruk's response to that interaction and calling it bussing also helps both current reads. (PnJ - town, Garruk - maybe scum)

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:48 am
by Goat on a Raft
I don't understand why Titus isn't dead. KKB pls explain bb. I think he claimed that bullshit role and is now living on the apathy of town to not get lynched today~

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:48 am
by Goat on a Raft
Lemme go see what CDB thinks of pnj

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:57 am
by Garruk Relentless
Bah, fine. I see our wagon is avtually getting started. I'm out doing errands right now.

I'll explain why you won't lynch me when I get home.

SSK if you're online please just full claim for me.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:59 am
by kanyeknowsbest
In post 4286, Goat on a Raft wrote:I don't understand why Titus isn't dead. KKB pls explain bb. I think he claimed that bullshit role and is now living on the apathy of town to not get lynched today~
In post 4271, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 4248, Nautilius wrote:
In post 4075, kanyeknowsbest wrote:the amount scum have to willingly give up for titus to be scum
talk to me about this
scum lynch, no kill, possible scum lynch -> purposefully giving up their nightkill. that sequence of events leading up to them throwing away a nightkill is pretty far fetched imo. the biggest problem is that they are throwing away a nightkill to ~maaaybe~ save titus. why do that when he could fakeclaim something else, still maybe save himself, and keep their nightkill? you have to remember that weve been harping all game that role came before alignment and people have been treating even confirmable claims w. some trepidation (ie safedtydanzo), so theres zero guarantee that throwing away their nk saves titus.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:12 am
by Goat on a Raft
So um. Could Titus not have fakeclaimed his role, and then scum were like "Lol we're not giving up our kill cya later bro" then just not voted him today amongst all the apathy?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:18 am
by Goat on a Raft
We er both had pnj as "town?" so ehh?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:27 am
by Cephrir
In post 4290, Goat on a Raft wrote:So um. Could Titus not have fakeclaimed his role, and then scum were like "Lol we're not giving up our kill cya later bro" then just not voted him today amongst all the apathy?
Several players, including myself, have confirmed this didn't happen.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:35 am
by kanyeknowsbest
why are you assuming the town is filled w. apathy right now?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:44 am
by Goat on a Raft
Because I'm filled with apathy...:'(

Vote: PnJ

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:49 am
by kanyeknowsbest
why? things are going pretty dang well for town?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:08 am
by Garruk Relentless
Unlike Nat, I'm not actually afraid of anything at this point seeing as all the votes on us are bullshit.

MC-They've had it out for us the
entire game
. Literally, all they've done is tunnel on us for one reason or another. No surprise that their vote is still on us.
SafetyDance- He was basically sheeping MC, if i recall correctly.
Titus- He for some reason thinks that we made up the theory in some act of anxious scumminess? Which makes no sense at all? Let alone is not enough for a serious vote on page 172 of a game.
Ooba- Ooba's also had it out for us a lot of the game. But he keeps flip-flopping. Like in his previous post he thought we were town. Now we're scum again. Why? Because MC. MC who has been tunneling us the entire time.

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:08 am
by Garruk Relentless
-SSK

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:24 am
by Alfred Borden
Forgive me if I'm retreading but:
Can we use the split doublevote to hammer 2 wagons at the same time?

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:00 pm
by kanyeknowsbest
In post 4296, Garruk Relentless wrote:Unlike Nat, I'm not actually afraid of anything at this point seeing as all the votes on us are bullshit.

MC-They've had it out for us the
entire game
. Literally, all they've done is tunnel on us for one reason or another. No surprise that their vote is still on us.
SafetyDance- He was basically sheeping MC, if i recall correctly.
Titus- He for some reason thinks that we made up the theory in some act of anxious scumminess? Which makes no sense at all? Let alone is not enough for a serious vote on page 172 of a game.
Ooba- Ooba's also had it out for us a lot of the game. But he keeps flip-flopping. Like in his previous post he thought we were town. Now we're scum again. Why? Because MC. MC who has been tunneling us the entire time.
why are you terrified of 3 votes?