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In post 4265, the worst wrote:VOTE: Wisdom

will explain l8r don't vote with me or I'll bite you

No, you really need to explain now. And do you think Wisdom is w/w with Shoshin or random?

Taly was hard defending Shoshin and moderately suspicious of random iirc.

In post 4274, the worst wrote:

In post 4272, Randomnamechange wrote:shoshin is fucking trying to twist any post anyone makes to their own means and TW is falling for it

what do you think I'm falling for?

the possibility of shoshin not being scum

Gimme 24 hours? I never survive this long and if we're in LyLo I will solve the fuck outta this shit

In post 4268, Shoshin wrote:

In post 4266, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:

In post 4243, Shoshin wrote:What'd Random tell you the truth about?

His being a neighbour and being in a hood. I was mildly suspicious of that until you posted that.

I don't understand... I didn't post anything that proves he was in a hood...

The Chick and Reality role flips. They both had the word “neghbour” in them and that is exactly what random told me his role was.

And what's that prove Nancy?

In post 4272, Randomnamechange wrote:shoshin is fucking trying to twist any post anyone makes to their own means and TW is falling for it

This post clearly indicates you think the worst is town. I agree with that. The only way tw is w/w with Shoshin is if they are scum teammates who had a nasty falling out or are Oscar contenders. Shoshin never pushed Chick like she did tw.

I also see no motive for the worst to have NKed Wheme. I think scum!the worst kills Wisdom over Wheme but I think his vote is bad.

I don’t see how Shoshin isn’t scum here. CS warned us and the worst specifically for a reason.

There's a couple of conversations we should have had before yday's lynch which didn't happen, these things happen (my first game onsite had b2b TvT lolhammers and town still ended up winning in LyLo) but it means we need to make up for lost time here

In post 4277, the worst wrote:Gimme 24 hours? I never survive this long and if we're in LyLo I will solve the fuck outta this shit

Look even if you’re right and Wisdom could possibly be scum here, it only makes sense if there are two scum left in the game, which I honestly believe there isn’t - not with all of the weak PRs anti-town roleslike Angel’s in this game. I don’t see how he scumreads you over random either but that just makes him wrong in that case, not scum.

I still don’t understand why you voted him. I think you should unvote him. I don’t want all the pressure to be on me.

I basically can. I was reaction testing the lowest equity scumteam left.

UNVOTE:

if there's two scum left in this game there's only 3 possible teams left:
{Wisdom, randomidget}
{Wisdom, Shoshin}
{TW, Shoshin}


so fmpov if there are two scum left Wisdom is confscum lol. but you're right, we need to solve the issue of if there's only one scum left.

@rando what's your solve for if there's 2 scum left?

Labyrinth Mafia - Votecount 5.165

Shoshin (2): Wisdom, randomidget
randomidget (1): Shoshin
Wisdom (0):
The Worst (0):
Nancy Drew 39 (0):

Not voting: The Worst, Nancy Drew 39

With 5 alive it's 3 to lynch.

The day will end in (expired on 2018-07-30 09:00:00).

that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about me

In post 4280, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I think scum!the worst kills Wisdom over Wheme but I think his vote is bad.

Why?

In post 4281, the worst wrote:There's a couple of conversations we should have had before yday's lynch which didn't happen, these things happen (my first game onsite had b2b TvT lolhammers and town still ended up winning in LyLo) but it means we need to make up for lost time here

Yeah I know I fucked up with Sajj hammer. I tried to reverse it but RC wouldn’t allow it but then I stupidly voted Wheme without realizing the Reality role flip spewed him town but Shoshin continues to avoid answering my question about her NA last night.

I don’t see how she’s town here - especially not with the Reality/Wheme NKs.

Also, we know scum targeted me N1 for redirect. Who would choose to redirect me specifically abd why?

Taly was only familiar with my meta in Varsoon game, so wouldn’t like view me as any kind of threat. Random wouldn’t have either - not on N1 before our hood. Creature/Chick might. Shoshin definitely could have based on our interaction where we both townread each other. You might. What we also know is scum both redirected me to Sajj and that Chick chose to investigate him. Why was scum targeting Sajj in particular? I don’t know her meta but I find it strange. Scum clearly saw her as a threat. Shoshin was heavily pushing her D1.

Apply that same logic to why you've been kept alive until LyLo tho

Nancy, how many times do I have to tell you that I protected you last night before you acknowledge it?

Scum have kept obvious townies alive until LYLO because they're trying to avoid killing the player that I bodyguard.

If you look at my choice not to bodyguard Shepard in that light, you'd see that it had a very pro-town effect (or could have if we hadn't lynched Sajj).

No you should have bodyguarded CShep that night. I'll say this post-game too. That was the single worst decision made by anybody all game.

If I were scum in this game, I'd have killed Sajj, Nancy, and the worst before I ever killed a player like Wheme.

Yeah, we disagree about that.

It was a bad decision in this group of players because I overestimated your ability to read me as town.

Like, if you are remotely capable of seeing that I'm town, it's better to have me alive than Shepard. Shepard's reads were terrible, he's bad at town, and he provides no value other than being confirmed town (and thus would have died soon after me anyway).

I provide a lot of benefit by having fucked up the scum's nightkill decisions and by actually having good reads and almost saving Sajj from a mislynch that Shepard surely would have pushed through.

I'm not gonna clutter the thread up with your ego again Shosh. Focus on solving the game.

In post 4283, the worst wrote:I basically can. I was reaction testing the lowest equity scumteam left.

UNVOTE:

if there's two scum left in this game there's only 3 possible teams left:
{Wisdom, randomidget}
{Wisdom, Shoshin}
{TW, Shoshin}


so fmpov if there are two scum left Wisdom is confscum lol. but you're right, we need to solve the issue of if there's only one scum left.

Yeah and the one argument Shoshin made that I’m actually buying is the weak town PR one, which points to there likely only being one scum left but I don’t know his scumgame but from what I’ve seen of his towngame, he doesn’t confidently push town as scum. He was equally willing to lynch Shoshin as Chick, which tells me that he’s very unlikely to be scum pushing a mislynch here.

In Minuet game, he confidently pushed a mislynch on a villa. I don’t believe for one second that scum!Wisdom confidently knowingly pushes mislynch on Shoshin - who would have almost certainly had been the lynch had I not switched it back to Chick. So, I feel pretty confident that Wisdom is town here.

Okay but if you'd died there the NK order would have been pushed back and we'd potentially have a conftown + me + another obvtown in LyLo (RC/Wheme)

@Nancy if there's 2 scum left alive, he'll push his ML on Shosh and win the game. If I were the last scum cross my heart I would have instahammered Shoshin there because no one wants her alive.