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Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:03 am
by RadiantCowbells
not my consensus townreads.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:03 am
by Ankamius
hi let's play via reads

and not what is 'mechanically optimal'

so that we can figure out whether our reads are valid?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:04 am
by Ankamius
well thanks for playing with us and letting us know what they are then RC

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:04 am
by Ankamius
I'm supporting an overkill/TD/chenn/x veto

until I see a damn good reason to do otherwise, I'm not supporting it

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:05 am
by Ankamius
not supporting any other vetoes*

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:08 am
by RadiantCowbells
aren't you the princess of "town win is by lynching all scum, not some of them?"

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
i guess that's not necessarily the best approach given the existence of 1 of 4

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:09 am
by RadiantCowbells
but in that case why did we blow coalition in the first place?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:10 am
by Ankamius
yes I am

and I also strongly believe that we'd get a lot more mileage out of flipping the consensus scumreads than by doing whatever the hell we're trying to do now to sort the coalition

since

you know

we've essentially stagnated with the same reads for weeks at this point and you're advocating for us not to progress our reads at all?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:10 am
by RadiantCowbells
my reads are plenty progressed

i just don't care for what everyone else is doing

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:12 am
by Ankamius
like other than a brief stint of barely townreading him for a time in D1, I've thought 0verki11 was scum for literally the entire game since I replaced in

I've had Time Devil as a scumread for close to the entire game

my other scumreads have shifted around, but a lot of it is predicated around the idea that my reads are mostly valid

and my reads are literally not being tested

and there are no nightkills to analyze so that I can get a read on what scum are doing

literally the only information I have to build a gamestate read is the day 1 8ball lynch and the dance partners

I HAVE NOTHING TO WORK WITH

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:12 am
by RadiantCowbells
like i'm not quite sure how i should approach this situation

because it feels like you all are playing a totally different game

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:12 am
by Ankamius
whatever RC

you're more important than everyone else in the game and that's all that matters

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:13 am
by RadiantCowbells
that's not what I said?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:15 am
by RadiantCowbells
sorry like you guys had your coalition, it failed
now I want to have a shot at ending this game so no one else has to deal with this shitshow anymore and I'm being selfish?
I had 0 input on the previous coalition. that was the agreement. you didn't even exclude me like I asked. a shit coalition got passed and we're not even going to veto in it?

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:15 am
by Ankamius
VOTE: Veto

PLEASE veto me

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:16 am
by RadiantCowbells
i'm not smothering the game like you claim, and if you're not scum trying to prevent me from getting a coalition off i'm not sure why you're doing what you're doing rn.

i'm not trying to make an enemy or piss anyone off i just don't understand

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:17 am
by Ankamius
because I've been stuck in the same rut for like 3 weeks now and you're literally advocating for a play that will do nothing but kill two of my townreads

what exactly is the benefit of that fmpov

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:18 am
by Ankamius
like

wow

four townreads get vetoed

two townreads die

that sure does a lot for my reads!

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:18 am
by RadiantCowbells
i didn't even want the dance, i just wanted to go straight into coalition. everyone insisted on narrowing the pool first and dance was better than blowing veto or venge
because I've been stuck in the same rut for like 3 weeks now and you're literally advocating for a play that will do nothing but kill two of my townreads

what exactly is the benefit of that fmpov
you

already

know

your

townreads

are

wrong

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:19 am
by Ankamius
I know that AT LEAST ONE of my townreads are wrong

FOR ALL I KNOW IT IS EXACTLY ONE

AND IT'S ONE OF THE TWO SLOTS I'M BARELY TOWNREADING IN THE FIRST PLACE

PUT THOSE TWO IN AND TWO BIGGER TOWNREADS AND THE TWO BIGGER TOWNREADS DIE

THEN WHAT

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:19 am
by RadiantCowbells
if we haven't found the scum in the coalition by midgame i'm going to end up lynched or revealed on paranoia. that's not happening.

cleaning up your collective mess is priority #1 here.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:20 am
by RadiantCowbells
i don't understand your reluctance to lynch in a pool that is confirmed to contain scum. i don't.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:21 am
by themilkcartonkid
Tell. Us. Your. Reads.

Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 8:22 am
by Ankamius
ftr

I'm mad at you specifically because you're advocating these plays that do nothing to help me get anywhere in the game and you've resisted actually playing with us when I asked and then told you to multiple times

I thought I proved that I'd work with you if you worked with me with the Oka/BEF thing but I'm not going to sit here and pull teeth every day phase for you to work with us