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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:11 am
by Datisi
vote count 4.02

with 7 votes in play, it takes 4 to make a decision. day 4 ends in (expired on 2021-05-14 20:30:00).


execution
DkKoba [2]:
clidd, Anya
InsidiousLemons [1]:
DkKoba

not voting [4]:
osuka, Andresvmb, InsidiousLemons, VFP


mod notes~ one two seven three


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Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:36 am
by osuka
In post 4255, clidd wrote:
you and clidd are confscum fmpov.
i'm not really scared of a clidd quick/miselim, since it's pretty much unthinkable to me that he's town given the circumstances
Be careful, you are forgetting the intensity of your previous instance. When emulating a perspective as scum it's important to write down exactly what you should and should not be aware of. If I were in a better position, I would immediately have identified a perspective slip and you would lose the advantage you have acquired so far (this is a tip for your scumgame, btw). Confscum is confscum and not "unthinkable".

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do you _want_ me to vote you?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 11:38 am
by osuka
In post 4270, clidd wrote:Anya is like on god level of solving if town (which I do think that she is).
saddest pocketing attempt in over 4000 posts

you did it

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 1:56 pm
by clidd
It's not my wish, what gave you such idea?

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 2:12 pm
by DkKoba
Sup

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:27 pm
by osuka
In post 4278, clidd wrote:It's not my wish, what gave you such idea?
it's like you're trying as hard as you can to be as scummy as possible

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:17 pm
by Anya
meh i was calling clidd town before he thought i was town don't think i'm in any trenchcoats

lemons your side of the interactions are slightly better but the way dkkoba disregards you and forgoes any communication and then you stop trying is so strange

i'd think wolf dkkoba wouldn't alienate town lemons like that if lemons still thinks dkkoba is town why not call you a wolf while also having you townread them by interacting more

and i think town oranges would try harder to get through or talk about how dkkoba is ignoring them more rather than just give up

makes most sense if you're hired guns together

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 7:19 pm
by Anya
osuka why do you want to vote clidd again i can't remember

Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 8:42 pm
by VFP
No quick hammer on Dk really suggests scum here.
Anya has to push Dk as scum but not be the first VT to vote here so that's positive points for Anya.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:21 am
by Datisi
prodding andresvmb.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:57 am
by Andresvmb
Okay, I finally have a few days to relax, do some light work, and focus. I’ll be back after eating since I’m a bit hungover haha but yeah, I’ll get into this.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:43 am
by clidd
Looking forward to it ^

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:47 am
by clidd
In post 4280, osuka wrote:
In post 4278, clidd wrote:It's not my wish, what gave you such idea?
it's like you're trying as hard as you can to be as scummy as possible
Maybe it's my sarcasm/playstyle.

But I'm not purposefully trying to look scummy (at least not consciously).

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 12:47 pm
by InsidiousLemons
andres really indulging with this 7 hour meal

maybe he got stuck in the drive thru

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:50 pm
by Anya
the promises to do stuff later are never kept in mafia it just never happens

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 4:49 pm
by Andresvmb
Okay the only choice that needs to be made here is between Green Crayons/Koba and Insidious. So I’ll ISO both slots and come back with some thoughts.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:11 pm
by Andresvmb
@Insidious, you need to vote. Trying to avoid doing so is a terrible look.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:41 pm
by osuka
andres, isn't clidd + anya a possible scum team? why are you discarding clidd scum?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:46 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 4292, osuka wrote:andres, isn't clidd + anya a possible scum team? why are you discarding clidd scum?
I’m not discarding clidd here. But there’s a cross-vote. Let’s get that one right first.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:51 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 4293, Andresvmb wrote:
In post 4292, osuka wrote:andres, isn't clidd + anya a possible scum team? why are you discarding clidd scum?
I’m not discarding clidd here. But there’s a cross-vote. Let’s get that one right first.
If anything the Team would be clidd + Insidious + Anya. There’s votes from clidd + Anya on Koba who has a vote on Insidious. Which means there’s always a Scum on Koba / Insidious, and we might be getting tremendous pressure to vote incorrectly. I do have to say, I find it curious that the entire Team would reveal themselves in this way. Of course, voting amongst the guns would have always forced the execution of the other ones, so we were going to end up with the remaining VT at the end anyway provided we get this right.

So from my perspective, it’s what, clidd + Anya + Insidious or osuka + Koba + clidd. Actually, in almost every scenario, clidd is Scum. So we should execute Insidious here. This is with the assumption that there are 2 Scum amongst the guns. If there’s 2 Town amongst the guns I think this game is lost though.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:52 pm
by Andresvmb
VFP I think is always Town.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:54 pm
by Andresvmb
In post 4295, Andresvmb wrote:VFP I think is always Town.
I mean the Non-Consecutive Neapolitan who is confirmed had them as Vanilla Town. So yes.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 6:55 pm
by Andresvmb
There’s a universe where Koba is bussing Insidious but I don’t see it. I doubt Koba narrows down the choice in this way without some theater or letting the VTs indicate where they’re leaning before voting as Scum.

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 7:10 pm
by Andresvmb
I mean it’s weird that Insidious claims to want to vote clidd while being voted by Koba. That makes no sense to me. If Koba is Scum, they definitely vote for the 1 Town amongst the guns. What’s the one weird scenario where this is not happening - If Koba is Scum and Insidious is Traitor or something right, and Insidious knows Koba is Scum so doesn’t want to vote there, but nobody can backtrack now because the vote has been out for too long?

Posted: Sat May 08, 2021 8:17 pm
by Andresvmb
Yeah I’ve re-read enough. I think clidd is always Scum.

So here goes nothing.

VOTE: InsidiousLemons