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Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:40 am
by Bell
Also, I’d know what was going on if I was in the scum PT and would just go there for an explanation.
But ahah, that’s just what I want you to think.
But actually.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:40 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 4273, Cephrir wrote: In post 4268, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?
What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?
a lot of players seem to be struggling with this concept:
masons being dead isn't good
they should easily be able to construct an unassailable crumb. like, spell out their name with the last letter of the second word in each post multiple times, or something
By the same token, if Roden is lying then scum being alive is also very much not good.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:40 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Masons are hardly game breaking either so to assume they would be insta killed is kind of like, meh?
An unassailable crumb would be difficult to find, no?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:41 am
by Cephrir
In post 4276, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 4273, Cephrir wrote: In post 4268, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?
What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?
a lot of players seem to be struggling with this concept:
masons being dead isn't good
they should easily be able to construct an unassailable crumb. like, spell out their name with the last letter of the second word in each post multiple times, or something
By the same token, if Roden is lying then scum being alive is also very much not good.
yes, but i don't think he's likely to be lying. rose and bernard are exactly the best mason claim possible by flavor, too
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:42 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Flavor =/= alignment
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:42 am
by Cephrir
In post 4277, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Masons are hardly game breaking either so to assume they would be insta killed is kind of like, meh?
An unassailable crumb would be difficult to find, no?
the surviving partner should be told about the crumb in the PT so they can point it out
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:42 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
In post 4280, Cephrir wrote: In post 4277, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Masons are hardly game breaking either so to assume they would be insta killed is kind of like, meh?
An unassailable crumb would be difficult to find, no?
the surviving partner should be told about the crumb in the PT so they can point it out
I'm dumb.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:43 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
OK, if Roden leaves clear crumbs then I guess Mason shouldn't claim then
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:43 am
by Frogsterking
I explained my rationale in
4254.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:43 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 4278, Cephrir wrote: In post 4276, MalcolmTucker wrote: In post 4273, Cephrir wrote: In post 4268, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wait, hold on. Roles are not revealed upon death so it's surely +EV for scum to NOT have the Mason claim? If it's a fake claim, and only one of them claim, then they get a ride off of it. If it's fake, two scum would have to claim Mason to make it viable, no?
What is the downside to Mason claiming if it's true?
a lot of players seem to be struggling with this concept:
masons being dead isn't good
they should easily be able to construct an unassailable crumb. like, spell out their name with the last letter of the second word in each post multiple times, or something
By the same token, if Roden is lying then scum being alive is also very much not good.
yes, but i don't think he's likely to be lying. rose and bernard are exactly the best mason claim possible by flavor, too
they r not the best mason claim
i wouldve made them lost masons who have to find each other
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:44 am
by Frogsterking
I'm down to wagon Ceph, Bell or Dwlee.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:44 am
by Bell
I explained what I was doing immediately after you made your rationale.
Any questions?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:45 am
by Bell
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:45 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
best mason flavor claim probly jin/sun
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:48 am
by Bell
On a scale of 1 to 10 how mad would you be Nancy if Titus was trying to cover for Dunnstral’s mistake?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:49 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
What mistake?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:49 am
by Frogsterking
Nothing personal, I've been talked down from my tone reads successfully by scum before. My experience is that I don't give my observations of this kind enough weight and I regret it later.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:49 am
by Bell
Dunnstral openly doubted Roden’s claim.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:50 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4092, MathBlade wrote:Why is it a facepalm?
You defend me because you know I am trying and realize I got a short end of the Schlick
Nancy then realizes I might be miselim able and gradually flips
A mason partner will eventually be clear why the fuck are you fishing?
I don’t know whether I should be sad or amused by how little you still know me after all this time. I genuinely want to sort you and now, you look more town again.
But bb is still definitely more suss than Klick. His entire reasoning for voting us is utter bs, which is why he’s still in my PoE.
And you clearly ignored the post where I unvoted you and said I didn’t want to rush anything? Remember?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:51 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
OK? And that's a mistake because?
Am I missing context here or?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:51 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
It's funny how people are talking about BB or Dunn being scum and I was laughed off the face of the thread for suggesting it earlier in the game.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:52 am
by Bell
In post 4291, Frogsterking wrote:
Nothing personal, I've been talked down from my tone reads successfully by scum before. My experience is that I don't give my observations of this kind enough weight and I regret it later.
Well, I gave you my full real reasoning. I’m not worried about being eliminated for awhile if ever. So, you can have it but know that you’re not gunna get brownie points for having a wrong read that went against the grain. You only get that for having a right read that went against the grain.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:52 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4095, MathBlade wrote:Like if y’all elim Roden it’s not the end of the world as we likely get a conf town tomorrow but I’d rather not elim what is probably a true claim.
I don’t think I want to vote Math anymore.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:53 am
by Frogsterking
In post 4286, Bell wrote:
I explained what I was doing immediately after you made your rationale.
Any questions?
In post 4289, Bell wrote:On a scale of 1 to 10 how mad would you be Nancy if Titus was trying to cover for Dunnstral’s mistake?
I think this looks like Bell!scum choking because they were distracted from arguing down my tone read.
How do you know Dunn made a mistake?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:53 am
by Bell
Already explained that a Mason claim is bad for scum to make here. It’s unlikely to be false.
Dunnstral is probably better than this.