Micro Queue (Players & Moderators) (OLD)

[RadiantCowbells]

town are supposed to claim traitor.

I'd think that was obvious.

[chilledtea]

The only realistic way that town can win is by taking out two mafia by vengekilling which seems really difficult.

[pisskop]

Yea, I guess youve got to be a dirty scumlord to win?

sounds interesting enough, but that optional venge

[chilledtea]

Seems similar to reverse-mafia in a way where townies are supposed to play like scum.

[Dwlee99]

/in 601

[Not_Mafia]

/in 601

[Postie]

The only realistic way that town can win is by taking out two mafia by vengekilling which seems really difficult.

Well, they can always get them lynched. The two Mafia can't claim because then they get venged the minute a VT gets lynched.

If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.

Oddly, I think I would love to be a VT in this set-up, precisely because it sounds so challenging.

[Postie]

^ I forgot town had a Neapolitan, so just imagine I said "town" in all the places I said VT.

If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.

Also if the Mafia Neapolitan is still alive and the remaining town member is a VT then this is autoloss I think.

[chilledtea]

The only realistic way that town can win is by taking out two mafia by vengekilling which seems really difficult.

Well, they can always get them lynched. The two Mafia can't claim because then they get venged the minute a VT gets lynched.

If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.

Oddly, I think I would love to be a VT in this set-up, precisely because it sounds so challenging.

Doubtful. Traitors would be really stupid to lynch a mafia, rather if the mafia does claim he escapes the lynch and the lynch can end up on someone else prefereably VT. If the Vengekill takes out mafia at least it is 1 for 1 trade.

[Aristophanes]

All this setup spec has me intrigued...
/in 601!

I think that's a hammer.

[pisskop]

Seems similar to reverse-mafia in a way where townies are supposed to play like scum.

well no?


One game you win by being as town as possible and its up to mafia to play to blend in, like normal.
the focus of this game is to townhunt, not scumhunt


another is about town under unusual circumstances and forced to blend in. by balancing scum meta with the need to be political and the need to focus on one group.

town in traitor game are essrntially forced to hope the uniformed and informed scum cross wires.



the differences are relatovely deep.

[chilledtea]

Seems similar to reverse-mafia in a way where townies are supposed to play like scum.

well no?


One game you win by being as town as possible and its up to mafia to play to blend in, like normal.
the focus of this game is to townhunt, not scumhunt


another is about town under unusual circumstances and forced to blend in. by balancing scum meta with the need to be political and the need to focus on one group.

town in traitor game are essrntially forced to hope the uniformed and informed scum cross wires.



the differences are relatovely deep.

That's true. What I wanted to say was this game will be something like reverse of what generally happens in a mafia game - town will be the ones attempting to blend-in (with a little bit of town-hunting) and scum will be doing most of the analysis.

[Postie]

Doubtful. Traitors would be really stupid to lynch a mafia, rather if the mafia does claim he escapes the lynch and the lynch can end up on someone else prefereably VT. If the Vengekill takes out mafia at least it is 1 for 1 trade.

True. But then if they get both Mafia run up to the point where they are forced to out themselves, they've won if they still have... it's either two or three members; the original post doesn't say whether town need one of their members alive to win.

If a VT venges another VT they screw themselves over so badly though. Even if they get to lylo, they would need to get the remaining scum to first lynch another scum, and then also venge incorrectly.

I've just realised this isn't correct at all. Town can win by killing all traitors

or

killing all "normal" Mafia, so the scum would need to have at least one traitor and at least one regular Mafia alive in lylo, and getting either of them lynched would result in a town victory. And if town don't need a member alive to win, it's actually autowin for them.

[RadiantCowbells]

The setup is heavily townsided.

[Postie]

Heck, I think you may be right.

[Ircher]

/in Grand Idea
Maybe I'll roll scum for once....

[chilledtea]

I think if the traitors don't vengekill unless they are sure, they will have an easier time winning.

[Maestro]

/out 601

[Postie]

I think if the traitors don't vengekill unless they are sure, they will have an easier time winning.

Yeah, although they can't

really

be sure unless they're the Neapolitan and have identified all their other living teammates, or are the last townie alive. Town are kind-of in a lose-lose situation wrt how towny or scummy they should act - too town and they risk being lynched or venged by scum; too scummy and they risk being venged by their own faction; nullish and they risk being investigated by the Mafia Neapolitan.

[Not_Mafia]

Game Name: Dolphin Mafia
Game Type: Open
Game Size: 9p

Optional Caption/Description of Game upon announcement: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Dolphin_mafia

[Sméagol]

/in 601 as a hydra of me , Gale wing Srock and Bluetrin

waiting for account activation

Ehhh.. I'm not sure if I'm allowing hydras..

/out 601

Maestro, are you in or out?
If you're out, I'm allowing hydras.
If you're still in, I'm not.

[Ircher]

/out Grand Idea

[Maestro]

/out 601

Maestro, are you in or out?
If you're out, I'm allowing hydras.
If you're still in, I'm not.

I don't feel comfortable forcing you to decide. You let me know whether I should be in or out - usually with hydras I go on the fence, but a three-header is not something I want to play with.

[quadz08]

Micro 601:

Traitors Amongst Us Mafia has filled for Sméagol!
Postie
Creature
RadiantCowbells
chilledtea
BlackStar
Frozen Angel + Gale Wing Srock + Bluetrin hydra (OR maestro - mod's call)
Dwlee99
Not_Mafia
Aristophanes

STILL IN SIGNUPS:

1 Day Left!

Micro 603:

Grand Idea Mafia: The Return

Mod:

kirroha + MarioManiac4

Game Type:

Semi-Open

Status:

5/9

Roles taken from the Grand Idea Mafia thread. At least 5/9 players must be Town, and there are no more than 2 scum on the same alignment.

Ranger
Rose Quartz
Aristophanes
lane0168
Ircher

NOW ANNOUNCING SIGNUPS:

Micro 604:

Reverse Mafia

Mod:

Pisskop

Game Type:

Open

Status:

0/8

[pisskop]

Reverse Mafia

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Game follows this setup.

-The wincons of the game have been reversed. Mafia want to get lynched and to Town want to reach parity with mafia.
-This means that people want be act as town as possible, so they can get lynched.
-Players may only vote for themselves in order to hammer.
-This game contans no jesters, nor is in any other way bastard
-The game is nightless, and thus there are no nightkills

-For this game:

- 1 Week days, 2 day nights
- No hydras
- Because this game is so focused, I'll allow WotC. PM me, dont pu it in thread.
- There will be scum daychat, and I will release it upon completion. You may discuss with me any edits that might be made.

Pre-in from Red Coyote and Aristophanes