I'm prepared to leave, G2. I think your pair is the TvT pair currently, but I will stay to talk if you need more.
She's prepared to leave so long as I leave, leaving only G2/L9 pair alive. She also explicitly states that she thinks you're Town and is happy with you being last alive.
...But if your pairing was town, the game would be over before she leaves, so the "leaving only my pair alive" stuff isn't what you should be calling scummy
This is what we call a perspective slip - you're calling out things that will happen after your pair leaves, while saying your pair is town, because really, in your mind, you know you're scum, so you're thinking about what happens in final 4 if you die, and you slipped up when describing this scenario
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:37 am
by Lady 2
Did you miss the part where she said "if the game isn't over"? Even IF she went first leaving and is scum the game's not over then (unless L5/G8 but then she really truly never leaves). Even there she's saying "make G2/L9 the last pair alive".
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:38 am
by Lady 9
Really, this is why you shouldn't be on mafia while you're tired. Glad to hear you're enjoying the game again, though. I don't see a need to further argue with scum about why she's scum, though, I'll talk to you guys tomorrow, don't do anything rash until I get back, please
And to the above, that's a pretty lousy justification for the slip, that isn't at all what you meant
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:39 am
by Lady 2
Look you are desperate, flailing, and also trying to get me to show emotional investment in the hopes that emotion looks scummy to G2. I'm emotionally engaged here based on my reason. I'm fine. G2 has the game in his hands here honestly.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:40 am
by Lady 9
Seriously though, I wouldn't have caught you if I weren't in my unique position where the ic was my partner and there's 2 scum alive with 3 pairs remaining, so kudos to you for this game regardless
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:41 am
by Lady 9
In post 4303, Lady 2 wrote:and also trying to get me to show emotional investment in the hopes that emotion looks scummy to G2.
I didn't do this, though. I don't think I ever referenced your emotions
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:46 am
by Lady 2
In post 4189, Gentleman 3 wrote:What I'll say is, I think if scum left L9 around to mislynch her, they would have... made some effort to mislynch her at some point. Pretty much nobody has. That's a red flag.
In post 4190, Gentleman 3 wrote:And while it's not impossible for L5 and G8 to both replace in as town and start hard pushing my pair just at the point where I'm trying to garner support for us being T/T, it's pretty damn sketchy.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:51 am
by Lady 9
In post 4275, Lady 2 wrote:I'm too old for pulling even a semi-all nighter. And My brain is friend for [presentation IRL type stuff but nonspecific here] where I will have to discuss things with LOGIC and REASON. But I will credit you guys for making me fall in love with the game of Mafia all over again.
Can we lynch G8/L5 first?
1. They're both pretty scummy and I feel fairly confident at least 1 will flip scum (probably not both, though).
2. They're going to be lynched anyways and we might as well do it now. I'd rather have more information from that lynch first.
3. This will give me time to read and try to make an informed opinion that lets me sort through the noise a bit better?
4. This lets other people in thread cool their heads.
In post 3001, Gentleman 6 wrote:L9 where is your catch up...
L7 do you have any reads L4 do you have any reads
I have reads but I'm keeping them in the PT.
Still haven't looked at G5, and I'm liking L8 less for her posts recently. They feel like they're just to throw doubt around in an unfocused way.
If G8 is scum, I'd be okay with a L2 lynch after.
I don't see them pairing up if they're both scum because I feel like L2 could be town who can live for a long time and G8 would be more of a burden. Yes, it's possible that G8 randomly invited L7 and then L5, but I don't really know, especially when anyone could just read a couple random pages and decide to keep L5 around.
I'm bad at reading AtE, though I think L5 isn't scum, but I still don't feel confident in that. I think 1 person in that team is scum.
G6, was it you who wanted G5 to die first? Why are they a better pick over L5/G8 for being first?
P-edit. Oh, I just realized you weren't talking to me. Oh well.
This is why I have ruled out G1/G8 as a pair. Because G7 would not have hard pushed a lynch on one (G8) of his two buddies to directly set up a lynch on his other buddy (G1) by virtue of his buddy's partner (L2) supposedly being scum with the first (G8). That's a very extremely risky hard bus for that stage of the game. Nah, if G8 is scum with G7, G7 is setting up a mislynch on a T-T pair here. And if G8 is Town G7 is just working on a mislynch and can go on his merry way regardless of G1's alignment when L8 flips T. This is why I don't think this logic holds true of G1/L5 as a pair - if he gets that lynch and it's T-S but L5 flips scum and G8 Town, G7 doesn't push on to push G1/L2 because L5-scum doesn't imply L2-scum like G8-scum does by his argument.
Oh, I do have a response to this though.
Your argument is that g1 cannot be scum with g8, because g7 planned to lynch both of them.
Look at the wagon on Gent 8/Lady 5. Gent 7 is on it, but so am I.
I pushed on Gent 7 pair this phase.
I've done the same thing that you say means gent 1/gent 8 can't be scum together, yet you've never mentioned that, didn't even consider it.
You're effectively saying that I bussed my whole team, but that g1 isn't scum because g7 would have been bussing his whole team, and that would be way too risky
G1 and G8 pairings have both scum. I'd bet my life on it.
And hey, I can quote dead town too
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:50 am
by Lady 2
FFS I have four hours left to me in this game because I need to go V/LA then
where is G2, and G8, and G1 for that matter
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:28 am
by Gentleman 2
Wherever I wanna be.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:29 am
by Gentleman 2
Actually, we snuck out of the dance and are smoking a fat joint. I'm hoping that while high the scum will slip up. Shh....
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:02 pm
by FakeGod
In light of lady 2's inability to play to game's end, a replacement was found.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:07 pm
by Lady 2
Hello, lovely people.
I'm a bit busy in real life for a few hours. I'll be back soon.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:22 pm
by Lady 2
In post 4205, FakeGod wrote:Countdown to deadline: 1 day, 8 hours, 19 minutes
The end is pretty close. I would like people to check in with me when they're here, please. I won't be able to read the entire thread in time but my predecessor has left a lot of notes which I'm working through.
Hi Lady 9. Could you give me a summary of your reads atm?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:22 pm
by Lady 9
These replacements are throwing me off
I'm pretty sure your scum and your predecessor couldn't come up with an answer to 4307 or most of 4272, among other things. Gent 8 is also scum. There's 2 scum remaining and 3 pairs
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:26 pm
by Lady 9
*you're
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:31 pm
by Lady 2
Replacements shouldn't be throwing you off. We're the same slot and the same account and I'm working from my predecessor's notes. Think of us as one mind - trying to read me as an independent mind when I have less than 48 hours to crush this game would be ridiculous.
What are you looking for by way of response to 4307? Could you show me your interactions with flipped scum which you feel clear you as being scum with them via too much to be bussing?
4272 is like.... a transparently agenda-driving case against my slot.... the fuck would my predecessor have engaged with that drivel?
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:31 pm
by Lady 2
sorry if my subtle take on your slot is showing.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:33 pm
by Lady 2
Like just from this page. You're certain I'm scum and you've been engaging with my professor up until she needed to replace out. I replace in and call for engagement and you take the opportunity to throw a cute comment to your IC dance partner rather than trying to force a new replacee into an engagement ?
We have less than two days left. If you think I'm scum you have an opportunity to fucking bury me. I don't think you're trying to push your read, I think you're trying to pocket G2 and hope for the best.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:50 pm
by Lady 9
^ It should be very clear that the replacement is working off an agenda here
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:51 pm
by Lady 2
Alright I'll play nice - why G8? What's your clear on L5/G1/G8?
will be at a PC soon.
Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:52 pm
by Lady 2
Lady 9 wrote:^ It should be very clear that the replacement is working off an agenda here
In post 4205, FakeGod wrote:Countdown to deadline: 1 day, 8 hours, 19 minutes
The end is pretty close. I would like people to check in with me when they're here, please. I won't be able to read the entire thread in time but my predecessor has left a lot of notes which I'm working through.
