Merchant's Daughter [Endgame]

[Something_Smart]

And I think it was SS and a few others saying I was the first lynch unless something changed.

Congratulations, something changed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Tfw you write a sonnet about a mafia game

[Nancy Drew 39]

???

i.e., the IC selection could be to cast doubt onto Gamma, if she is town, for the wifom involved

It's simpler than that. Scum picked an IC that can never live to endgame.

They could have also IC’d Taly, because it would also accomplish nothing, because is there anyone here, who would be shocked by Taly being confitown’d? Next to Ank, Taly, is the most obvious townie in the entire game.

[Gamma Emerald]

Krazy is also a town powerhouse. Given that someone with experience in that department might be scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Krazy were you strong town before you left the site for a while? I want to know if that might be worth searching.

[Krazy]

I think I was starting to get better right before I left. I had a game of fire and ice that ended in a draw, and a large theme that ended in a gamethrow/mod error which seemed like a really zen way to break things off for a while. But no, I don't think I had any sort of reputation for having a strong towngame until I came back in Ircher's Large Normal.

True story, my first scum game on site was against Hiraki, and my first scum game when coming back to the site was against Hiraki, and like those are the only two games I've ever seen him in. Sorry that's kinda off topic just something I noticed that I thought was funny

[Krazy]

Taly, is the most obvious townie in the entire game.

stop triggering me Nancy

I don't necessarily disagree but you've said that many times and I'm just wondering how much recent experience you have with Taly's scum game

[Krazy]

I'm slightly more inclined to think the IC was put on a scum pair if only to force town to get rid of it early.

there are arguments to be made for leaving the IC'd pair in final 3 pairings even if Gamma was widely scumread, given that dramatically decreases the likelihood of a loss in the entry into final 3 pairs. That being said I'd still rather not warp the reads of Gamma at this point and I don't want to get into a mech discussion of final pairings right now

[Gamma Emerald]

Thanks
Btw I wrote this out in my PT with Pvt expecting to have some work to do on it and not wanting to post too much in the main thread with my ramblings but I think this is a good base so my reads rn are

Locktown
Pvt
Taly

Townreads
Krazy
Vedith

Weaker townreads
Nancy
Dann

Shades of null
Pink Ball
Something_Smart
Firebringer

Suspicious person
Moment

My top scumreads
Dr. Worm
DoubtingThomas
TheBrie

FYI each set IS ordered by towniest at the top except weaker townreads, which is ordered by recency because recency affects my confidence there.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Taly, is the most obvious townie in the entire game.

stop triggering me Nancy

I don't necessarily disagree but you've said that many times and I'm just wondering how much recent experience you have with Taly's scum game

I played with scum!Taly in Labrynth and I locktowned him in SC 2 or have you forgotten about that?

My point is, do you disagree that he is the most widely read obvtown player in this game, if town?

[Krazy]

I played with scum!Taly in Labrynth and I locktowned him in SC 2 or have you forgotten about that?

My point is, do you disagree that he is the most widely read obvtown player in this game, if town?

I'm thinking about my Taly read, if Labyrinth Mafia is the most significant scum game for her that you're basing your read on I'll bear that in mind when I do a meta dive later this week

[Nancy Drew 39]

Thanks
Btw I wrote this out in my PT with Pvt expecting to have some work to do on it and not wanting to post too much in the main thread with my ramblings but I think this is a good base so my reads rn are

Locktown
Pvt
Taly

Townreads
Krazy
Vedith

Weaker townreads
Nancy
Dann

Shades of null
Pink Ball
Something_Smart
Firebringer

Suspicious person
Moment

My top scumreads
Dr. Worm
DoubtingThomas
TheBrie

FYI each set IS ordered by towniest at the top except weaker townreads, which is ordered by recency because recency affects my confidence there.

Why is Fire so low and why is Vedith that high? Why is moment “suspicious”? Also, I’m trusting RC read on her. He seemed pretty confident on moment, town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fire is low because I had the thought that maybe he was careless with pairing because he's scum and doesn't need to worry as much. Vedith is high because I feel like this posting style trends more towards town for him. Krazy and Vedith also share a tier which I feel is a sign I might be onto something. As for Moment it's pretty much "where the fuck is town motivation in dodging my question?"

[Nancy Drew 39]

I played with scum!Taly in Labrynth and I locktowned him in SC 2 or have you forgotten about that?

My point is, do you disagree that he is the most widely read obvtown player in this game, if town?

I'm thinking about my Taly read, if Labyrinth Mafia is the most significant scum game for her that you're basing your read on I'll bear that in mind when I do a meta dive later this week

Didn’t someone also say, a scumtell for Taly, was to be town leader or something?

But he is nothing here, like he was in Labrynth. He was super aggressive in that, as in “how can you be townreading X” and I’m hard townreading Y with the negative utility role that can fuck town over.

Like if you disagreed with his reads, he hardpushed you. And there was also not an iota of the genuineness we see here. I don’t care how good someone is at scum, there’s just some things are not easily fakable. Like no offense to Taly but I just don’t believe he’s that good. I don’t even believe RC is that good.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Fire is low because I had the thought that maybe he was careless with pairing because he's scum and doesn't need to worry as much. Vedith is high because I feel like this posting style trends more towards town for him. Krazy and Vedith also share a tier which I feel is a sign I might be onto something. As for Moment it's pretty much "where the fuck is town motivation in dodging my question?"

Am I missing something, how are Krazy and Vedith connected?

[Vedith]

Gamma doesn't say connected.

[TheBrie]

Interesting.

I was hoping to discuss reads and try to make some with Moment, but he's not talking to me.

Gamma, why are you sus of Doubting Thomas and Dr Worm?

[Vedith]

So I was trying to discuss reads and other things with Fire. Although I was distracted half way through Fire stopped responding when I was talking about reads and asking questions / making suggestions.
I'm not sure why Town!Fire does this unless he was really busy in life of course.

[Krazy]

You're saying Fire didn't use your PT for shitposting at all?

[PvtUrist]

wait why am I the IC

why not Taly

[Nancy Drew 39]

Gamma doesn't say connected.

Krazy and Vedith also share a tier which I feel is a sign I might be onto something.

[PvtUrist]

Vedith - Firebringer

Dr Worm

-

Pink Ball

Krazy

- Taly

Dancefloor

-

Nancy Drew 39

Moment - TheBrie
DoubtingThomas - Something_Smart

PvtUrist

-

Gamma Emerald

Current town-reads. Dark greens are conf/strong town, light greens are lean town.

[Vedith]

Gamma doesn't say connected.

Krazy and Vedith also share a tier which I feel is a sign I might be onto something.

I guess I read that differently to you.

[Vedith]

You're saying Fire didn't use your PT for shitposting at all?

None at all.
Asked me why on a read and disagreed with 2 of my reads but other than that nothing from fire.

[Firebringer]

I am uninvested in game rn.
no strong scumreads to push.

I am probably going to go back through RCs ISO and sheep his reads when I decide to do something here.