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Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:42 am
by jjh927
There are so many holes in your claim it's unbelievable

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:45 am
by jjh927
That said, due to the amount of shit you claim that you just retract later, could you give a more detailed claim as to what you are actually claiming right now in this second so I can explain why it's a shitty fakeclaim

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:53 am
by Flavor Leaf
Simple. I had a role cop shot, and I checked you. I received Traitor.

I have a role that I am linked with another player in the game. I believe this player to likely be scum or 3rd party. I don't know if they know about me for sure, but I imagine they do. I have a certain objective I have to accomplish or I can't win. I'm town aligned, but I can lose even if town wins if I don't accomplish my objective.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:55 am
by jjh927
Right now, the pressing holes and questions are:

-How much of your old claims are you going to be reaffirming and how much are you gonna retract?
-You're claiming to have a functionally 3p wincon that includes the town wincon but is harder than it which is frankly obvious scum!boon fakeclaim bullshit
-What is the precise nature of your "rolecop"? What does it return?


I have more but these ones comes first

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:56 am
by jjh927
In post 4328, jjh927 wrote:-What is the precise nature of your "rolecop"? What does it return?
This is a particularly big question rn

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:57 am
by Xtoxm
boon do you know the flavour of the person you are looking for or what do you have on them

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:18 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4330, Xtoxm wrote:boon do you know the flavour of the person you are looking for or what do you have on them
I don't know the flavor of them, but I basically have a targeting ability that helps me look for them. I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target. I'm from Hikaru no Go, so I was semi thinking maybe my target also is from HnG, so I was trying to bait out earlier who is familiar with Hikaru no Go, and I thought by bringing it up in the way I did, my target, if from HnG, would actively try hiding the fact that they knew about the show.

I'm Sai, but effectively Hikaru. I'm kind of not really in this game, and I can have actions pass through me. Sometimes I have multiple actions to use, sometimes I don't, depending on what I picked up. Night 1 I had 2 actions. I targeted Alchemist for one of them, and that caused all actions on me to be passed through me onto him. That's essentially my main ability.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:24 am
by Alchemist21
In post 4307, Xtoxm wrote:your claim is 2 days overdue and someone has claimed a guilty on you
i cant take you seriously rn
do you think you can get out of this by crossvoting and saying nothing?
Why is his claim 2 days overdue?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:27 am
by Xtoxm
In post 4332, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 4307, Xtoxm wrote:your claim is 2 days overdue and someone has claimed a guilty on you
i cant take you seriously rn
do you think you can get out of this by crossvoting and saying nothing?
Why is his claim 2 days overdue?
he would have died on d3 if people had bothered to vote before deadline

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:28 am
by Xtoxm
@boon, alright.
i'd be happy to help you if i were that character.
i'm not from HnG, and i doubt i'm what you're looking for.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 1:41 am
by jjh927
In post 4331, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4330, Xtoxm wrote:boon do you know the flavour of the person you are looking for or what do you have on them
I don't know the flavor of them, but I basically have a targeting ability that helps me look for them. I also gain abilities throughout the game depending on who I target. I'm from Hikaru no Go, so I was semi thinking maybe my target also is from HnG, so I was trying to bait out earlier who is familiar with Hikaru no Go, and I thought by bringing it up in the way I did, my target, if from HnG, would actively try hiding the fact that they knew about the show.

I'm Sai, but effectively Hikaru. I'm kind of not really in this game, and I can have actions pass through me. Sometimes I have multiple actions to use, sometimes I don't, depending on what I picked up. Night 1 I had 2 actions. I targeted Alchemist for one of them, and that caused all actions on me to be passed through me onto him. That's essentially my main ability.

In a game where abilities are gated by power levels, this is bullshit

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:03 am
by jjh927
Honestly this just reeks of Boon doing the kind of overly complex fakeclaim he usually does in a game where the role PMs aren't really that complex and the claim doesn't mesh at all with the setup design. Gaining abilities throughout the game is inevitably going to be covered by power level except in the case of one particular flip, which is still very clear about how those abilities are gained. Now, consider the fact that this role existed and could have consumed FL- who is claiming an active ability that does something and then gains him new abilities. The claim simply does not mesh with this existing role in any sensible mechanical way.

The most critical flaw in just the claimed rolecop is that role titles are potentially ambiguous and yet FL has claimed to receive no more than "Traitor"- but a rolecop that does not receive a full explanation of a role in a game with a roles called "Mech Pilot" and "Dragon Knight" is just not a thing.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:07 am
by Flavor Leaf
All I got was Traitor. If I had more, I'd have said more.

I don't really have that strong of a role, and I believe the role cop to be pretty weak in this game because exactly what you brought up. You just got screwed over because you're a traitor.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:17 am
by Xtoxm
mm no i think a rolecop would get a full rolecard
what are you doing here boon

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:19 am
by Alchemist21
He’s doing what he tends to do.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:22 am
by jjh927
Which is rolling scum and making janky ass fakeclaims

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:23 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4338, Xtoxm wrote:mm no i think a rolecop would get a full rolecard
what are you doing here boon
I'm not a flavor cop, I'm a role cop. Not even a full one at that. His role is Traitor. Not dragon knight, not anything else. traitor.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:23 am
by jjh927
You wanna know what anime my pick came from?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:24 am
by Flavor Leaf
There are 14 players alive on Day 5. Why would I ever fake a guilty here as scum?

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:25 am
by jjh927
Why would you fake a guilty here as town

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:26 am
by jjh927
Why would you think your fake guilty was even remotely capable of standing up to scrutiny

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:29 am
by jjh927
How do you intend to spin a character from the 1990 anime adaption of moomins as a traitor

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:30 am
by Flavor Leaf
You were already likely going down, if I was faking a guilty, I'd go for a much higher priority target.

I don't know that. All I know is you are confirmed traitor.

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:31 am
by jjh927
Likely going down? I'd just started posting again in a big way

Suddenly I'm a threat

Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:32 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4191, jjh927 wrote:Implies I'm on the right track though
In post 4192, jjh927 wrote:Yeah fwiw I'd vote either of the scumbutts who just voted me, preferentially in reverse order, but I'm guessing there's not enough time or people who agree with me today
In post 4197, jjh927 wrote:the entire scumteam voted me consecutively
In post 4199, jjh927 wrote:I think one of them was even a traitor