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PlusJOYED [3]:

Ydrasse, shellyc, Tayl0r Swift

bob3141 [2]:

Andresvmb, PlusJOYED

osuka [2]:

bob3141, NDMath

shellyc [1]:

osuka

Not Voting [1]:

Menalque

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Daddy

What the fuck

huh bob you look awfully flustered. what happened to 10 posts a day?

I don’t think I’m arguing that you’ve made rookie mistakes at all actually. Your position on Kerset is reasonable on the face of it. You never hard SR there before the claim, and you have a post where you express some limited suspicion based on the fact that Kerset didn’t push anybody hard. And that was smart since there was pressure building there quickly. But you also seem to question others for their progressions there, like Tayl0r. And then after the claim, you do the smart thing and hard defend Kerset. Which obviously is understandable I made the same argument and agreed with you. Which is why Saudade for example probably died - for expressing interest there with the Claim. And your probing of Kerset D2 is great, but it came much after there was a tremendous amount of pressure on Kerset already. If you’re Scum, it is exactly what I would have expected. Because hard defending there *could* work, but it puts you in a terrible spot if it does wrong. Like Osuka, and to a lesser extent plus.

^goes wrong.

And yeah you never voted IV. I know, I made a comment about that. It’s almost as if you piled on but never fully put your vote there, which makes you look good in hindsight. Except, it’s not quite what Menalque did for example now is it? To hard defend IV and clearly show that it was silly and urged me not to abandon my initial read.

So you see, I am arguing this is all actually tough game play to see as Scum, but if you look closely, it doesn’t look good. Same for the shading of Teacher. You can argue that it is reasonable. And hell, maybe it is. I just think that Teacher clearly had suspicions of your slot. So I am working through them as best as I can.

Anyway, I’ll just do this for now.

VOTE: Osuka

Plus and Osuka should theoretically cross-vote, leaving the decision in Menalque’s hands.

[4329] through [4331] are all for Bob in case it wasn’t clear.

In post 4333, Andresvmb wrote:Plus and Osuka should theoretically cross-vote, leaving the decision in Menalque’s hands.

this is dumb

In post 4335, osuka wrote:

In post 4333, Andresvmb wrote:Plus and Osuka should theoretically cross-vote, leaving the decision in Menalque’s hands.

this is dumb

Then don’t vote for your own survival and get executed. Theoretically that can happen too.

i would barely call voting for a slot you think is town playing wincon

I don’t recall actively asking you to vote plus. And even if I had, I still think that slot is suspicious. So I’m not understanding your point at all.

You and plus are the leading wagons with 3 votes each, and you are both not voting each other. Purely out of a sense of survival, I expect the both of you to cross-vote. That was my point. But nice shade there.

In post 4266, Tayl0r Swift wrote:this list makes me sad

sorry!

you're before Ydrasse.

In post 4286, Andresvmb wrote:Honestly I’m the first to say that plus has played a Scummy game. To be honest I am amazed at the amount of things plus has been able to pack in this game that make no sense. But I’m struggling a bit with trying to figure out why they would reverse the Claim here. Same day.

cause setup spec with vengeful doesnt make sense and they're getting limmed to test the claim. end of convo.

In post 4316, PlusJOYED wrote:bob and andres is TvS af and im nearly positive andres is town

highly concur.

like bob just slipped lol and it sounds awfully like flailing

VOTE: bob

im fine with putting my vote anywhere on joyed bob osuka if it means pushing the lim.

i can be fine with bob since shelly is clearly not gonna happen

In post 4343, osuka wrote:i can be fine with bob since shelly is clearly not gonna happen

so youre willing to compromise with your top scumread on to her preferred wagon?

swifty I haven't heard from you a lot!

whats your read on the gamestate aorn

I am not gonna happen osuka

osuka + plusjoy pushing onto me at roughly same times is interesting.

In post 4344, Tayl0r Swift wrote:

In post 4343, osuka wrote:i can be fine with bob since shelly is clearly not gonna happen

so youre willing to compromise with your top scumread on to her preferred wagon?

as weird as that sounds yeah

i could be wrong here and i dont _really_ see shelly and bob on the same team to be honest, but i kind of have no option because even though i want to see shelly gone, i obviously can't do that so i have to settle for the second best

if bob flips red i might reevaluate

also