↑Dwlee99 wrote:I am sorry that when someone claims to "know" things about prs and ADMITS TO CLAIMING AN INNO I think it has to do with a PR.
Actually, now that I think about it...seriously, when you listed all those prs and realized their information couldn't have come from any standard PR alone, why the hell did you assume they were scum? There are plenty of other explanations. There are neighborizers, amd people who can send messages, and roles that investigate but deliver the results to other slots.....i don't know how much experience with nacho and plot you have, but what you were accusing them of is INCREDIBLY sloppy scum play, and neither of them are that sloppy. Even if you DON'T know plot, all you need to do is look at their posts and you will see great attention to detail.
So, yeah. Why did you jump to the scum assumption?
Do I have to go through occam's razor with you?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:02 pm
by Dwlee99
Occam's Razor: TPP is scum
Other possibility: TPP fakeclaimed an inno on someone (which he admitted to) in order to stop the vigilante from killing a town read of his that he is super confident in because of a neighborizor tictac had that he used on tpp where, also they had info on prs because they are good at picking up info on prs
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:04 pm
by Marquis
Can we just lynch FS and cut all of...
this
*vague hand wave* short?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:05 pm
by Marquis
Occam's Razor: Nacho and Plot are good at picking up on crumbs, and Nacho and Plot are not sloppy scum players
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:05 pm
by Cerberus v666
If we assume existence of a vig, btw, flubs BP is mechanically NAI. Just a reminder so people don't start conflating TPPs play based read on them for a mechanical reason to think they're town.
Pedit: sure. Town playing well is JUST AS SIMPLE as scum playing poorly. At which point, you discard the razor, and start looking at everything else to see what makes sense.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:06 pm
by Friendless Seniors
↑Marquis wrote:Can we just lynch FS and cut all of...
this
*vague hand wave* short?
I really hope you're scum.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:06 pm
by Cerberus v666
↑Marquis wrote:Occam's Razor: Nacho and Plot are good at picking up on crumbs, and Nacho and Plot are not sloppy scum players
Exactly.
You're still wrong about FS though, amd you should have fucking checked them because this is a huge fucking distraction, and the fact that you didn't makes me VERY suspicious of you.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:07 pm
by Marquis
↑Dwlee99 wrote:TPP fakeclaimed an inno on someone (which he admitted to) in order to stop the vigilante from killing a town read of his that he is super confident in because of a neighborizor tictac had that he used on tpp where, also they had info on prs because they are good at picking up info on prs
this whole situation epitomizes the tired old "lynch what we don't understand" story
maybe we lynch them later, idk, but as you've been told before, right now all your reasons for calling them scum point to them being town
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:07 pm
by Friendless Seniors
because that is an outrageous stance given what has happened.
You are just never going to lynch or question plot/nacho...because they don't play sloppy?
why bother playing mafia at all then fuck marquis. If you're town, get out of nachos ass
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:08 pm
by Friendless Seniors
↑Cerberus v666 wrote:Exactly. You're still wrong about FS though, amd you should have fucking checked them because this is a huge fucking distraction, and the fact that you didn't makes me VERY suspicious of you.
yeah, why the fuck didn't you do this?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:09 pm
by Marquis
↑Cerberus v666 wrote:You're still wrong about FS though, amd you should have fucking checked them because this is a huge fucking distraction, and the fact that you didn't makes me VERY suspicious of you.
we can disagree on cop theory all you want but the fact is i wanted to settle slots that were doing relatively nothing, with relatively no reaction to them doing nothing
and now i have two innos on players that otherwise would have been very unlikely to be nightkilled
even controversial players are better nk targets than those who make relatively no impact + can be lynched
whatever
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:11 pm
by Friendless Seniors
I actually agree there. Your made good cops
I don't like your attitude regarding me, regardless.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:11 pm
by Marquis
Friendless Seniors wrote:because that is an outrageous stance given what has happened.
You are just never going to lynch or question plot/nacho...because they don't play sloppy?
why bother playing mafia at all then fuck marquis. If you're town, get out of nachos ass
↑Cerberus v666 wrote:Exactly. You're still wrong about FS though, amd you should have fucking checked them because this is a huge fucking distraction, and the fact that you didn't makes me VERY suspicious of you.
yeah, why the fuck didn't you do this?
I don't quite care to divine whether "jumping down my throat once you sense other people are open to criticizing or discrediting me too" is a town tactic or scum tactic but whatever it is it's really not necessary
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:12 pm
by Friendless Seniors
or you know, once you do something worth criticizing.
I don't like your attitude regarding me, regardless.
if you want me to reword my feelings on today, it would be that I'm not giving you another chance at survival, because I think everyone else deserves one more
↑Cerberus v666 wrote:You're still wrong about FS though, amd you should have fucking checked them because this is a huge fucking distraction, and the fact that you didn't makes me VERY suspicious of you.
we can disagree on cop theory all you want but the fact is i wanted to settle slots that were doing relatively nothing, with relatively no reaction to them doing nothing
and now i have two innos on players that otherwise would have been very unlikely to be nightkilled
even controversial players are better nk targets than those who make relatively no impact + can be lynched
whatever
Sure, that's a reason Marquis. And I get that. So that made sense the first night. But after the first night, WHEN IT SEEMED LIKELY THERE WAS A VIG AROUND, A SLOT WHOSE FUCKING JOB IS TO REMOVE DISTRACTIONS LIKE THAT FROM THE GAME(barring some sort of certainty that x is scum), I would think you'd leave that job to them, and do something that would prevent 8 more days of talking about the same 10% of the game.
Spoiler: About crumbs
Also(and this is like, I mean, something that should probably go in MD, but whatever, fuck it, someone answer me) WHY THE FUCK DO PEOPLE EVER FUCKING CRUMB SHIT??? Scum look for crumbs, and they don't share it with the town. Town look for crumbs, and if they find them, they share them when it seems helpful, unless they die before it helps. That means your crumb probably just helps out scum. The only people I see using crumbs effectively are scum, using them to fuck with towns assumptions(like Mastin in Inorganic Chemist).
So, like, town. Stop fucking crumbing. It's bad, you're bad, and you should feel bad for doing it.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:16 pm
by Marquis
Friendless Seniors wrote:which is fucking bogus
you know I'm town marquis
no I don't and saying that might elicit an emotional+beneficial response in others but not me, but we've gone over this before so I'll stop talking because apathy is growing
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:18 pm
by Friendless Seniors
cerb is still scum, probably. hes doing essentially nothing
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:20 pm
by Dwlee99
↑Marquis wrote:Occam's Razor: Nacho and Plot are good at picking up on crumbs, and Nacho and Plot are not sloppy scum players
yes because I totally know this information thank.you for reminding me of these things that I forgot how coukd I be so stupid.
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:21 pm
by Marquis
hi cerb! I'm not a big fan of the way you seem to just appear out of nowhere and talk at others about how their play was bad. what's up with that?
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:23 pm
by Friendless Seniors
itching out a cerb vote.
Marquis, I think this is scum coasting. Do you agree?
↑Marquis wrote:Occam's Razor: Nacho and Plot are good at picking up on crumbs, and Nacho and Plot are not sloppy scum players
yes because I totally know this information thank.you for reminding me of these things that I forgot how coukd I be so stupid. :roll:
I mean I might be mistaken but dude I think we've been telling you this while you just kept posting "kill them". And as Mirhawk/whoever said, their posts clearly held more than the standard attention to detail.
Anyway this is entirely irrelevant now in the grand scheme of please-can-we-lynch-someone-and-go-to-night-so-i-can-die.
I think FS is still the most worthwhile lynch. If anyone cared to look into the lower volume posters we might find something better a la Skybird, but until the game gets to heal a bit I would be very happy with removing someone who is actually more likely than not scum in my PoV!
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:27 pm
by Friendless Seniors
Marquis, I'm town.
You don't want all those cleared town alive tomorrow. I can actually do good this game.
Don't let me die when you're likely to tonight.
Lets lynch cerb or someone like that, and I'll settle down on the TPP thing until we're absolutely sure I'm right.
Marquis, I think this is scum coasting. Do you agree?
I know Cerb's a good player so I'm trying to determine where the burden of proficiency mark lies. Ask me again when the good number of players like me currently going through exams are, well, not going through exams
meh.
I'd vote him but what's just screaming out at me here is another instance of you being opportunistic in opposition to a lynch I wanted, even if that lynch is you. In other words it probably comes off as petty that I'm not going for it because you offered to go for it, but that's where my instincts lie right now. (It's not a personal thing!)
