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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:24 am
by Marky Mark
If people are still unsure, go read the vote counts from throughout the game off Glitch's ISO and tot up how many VCs have DK voting for a townie who is now dead compared to me voting for a townie who is now dead. They have consistently been pushing townies hard the entire game, whereas I was primarily pushing DK d1 and DGB d2.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:27 am
by Flavor Leaf
I’m not scum. If Marky is town, we lose.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:27 am
by Marky Mark
Btw if I've counted correctly (I could well be wrong after speed-reading 15 pages or so to catch up) I'm at
E-1
right now (DK, DGB, FL, Andres). We wouldn't want an 'accidental' hammer like yesterday.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 am
by Flavor Leaf
UNVOTE: Marky

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 am
by Flavor Leaf
I’m not scum.

See this.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:29 am
by Flavor Leaf
Not you, necessarily, Mark. If you’re town, we’re kinda fucked. I think you’re scum here.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:35 am
by VP Baltar
FL are you townreading andres now?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:38 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4356, VP Baltar wrote:FL are you townreading andres now?
Yes.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:40 am
by Flavor Leaf
He’s just a townie on the ride of the game, no more than I at this point.

I should have FN’d elsewhere. I almost did too. Day 1 Dkkoba annoyed me, and I just wanted to deal with it and not have to interact with them, then they became like this stray animal that wouldn’t stop town reading all my pushes.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:48 am
by VP Baltar
In post 4357, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 4356, VP Baltar wrote:FL are you townreading andres now?
Yes.
I mean, I am too, which is making it harder for me to believe Marky scum here. The problem is that now that Taylor is dead, I believe her Mark is still learning good scum play. His immediate counter claim (if fake) of koba seems like very good scum play, doesn't it? He's either getting coaching if scum, has really advanced his play, or is actually the town person here.

Of the players left alive, DGB and andres seem like the only people who could big brain that plan (though I don't know much about A50 or NM's scum play to be fair).

If I believe andres is town, scum equity does seem higher between DGB-koba than DGB-mark.


As I type this, IDK where I'm even going with it...I just have this gut feel this is a complicated play for scum Mark.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:52 am
by Flavor Leaf
It seems like alright scum play. Multitasking claim was weird because I don’t think he accounted for the setup spec of it being weird.

If Marky is scum, I don’t necessarily think it’s with DGB moreso than some of the others.

I think Jackson is conf scum in that scenario.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:53 am
by VP Baltar
oh right, jackson. forgot about that one. hmm

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:54 am
by Flavor Leaf
why would a messenger be multitasking and then why do they target Marky knowing Marky will target there is why i keep coming back.

Marky flipping scum also is best case scenario for my not getting misfaded, so I could be biased.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:54 am
by Not_Mafia
OKay someone summarise these claims please

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:55 am
by Not_Mafia
I'm probably gonna want Koba regardless as they should have been the day 1 elim

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:56 am
by Flavor Leaf
A50, you, or Not Mafia likely fill that last spot.

I think all 3 of you are capable of doing that play. I don’t think Not Mafia would choose to, but he wouldn’t fight someone else doing it if they wanted to.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:59 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4363, Not_Mafia wrote:OKay someone summarise these claims please

Koba mailman
Marky role watcher

I’m friendly neighbor.

Marky role watched DGB
Koba targeted DGB to get seen by Marky.

Marky claimed they were mailman, then said they were Multitasking Mailman, which Kkoba disputed.

Talk of the town is Marky fake guiltied Kkoba.

I also friendly neighbor’d Koba, so if Koba is scum, I’m getting misfaded.

Marky Mark scum is taking out what they thought was a conf town pairing in Dkk and I.

That’s where I stand.

Alternatively, Kkoba is scum.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:00 am
by Flavor Leaf
Reason why we’re likely going Marky is because if they flip scum, Dkkoba is cleared, and also I am. Which puts scum back in a rough spot.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:01 am
by Flavor Leaf
The thought process is there’s no way someone who is a Multitasking Mailman purposefully gets watched on top of needing to get rid of the confirmed town pair (presumed).

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:05 am
by Not_Mafia
Multitasking Mailman and what?

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:05 am
by Not_Mafia
Wait ignore me

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:06 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 4328, Marky Mark wrote:I was surprised to see FL claim the non-loyal odd night FN today as heavily implying they were a different type of FN just doesn't make sense in terms of orthodox town play (I remember reading on the wiki that it's almost never an good idea for town to fakeclaim or misconstrue their role) but I don't know how in-character it is for him.
I’ve literally claimed 6 separate roles as town before and went on to solve the game. I spit in the face of orthodox.

If you’re reading me based on actions, the fact I didn’t do much of the crazy stuff is why I should be seen as scummy.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:08 am
by Flavor Leaf
Marky scum team is with some combination of you, Jackson, A50, and VP.

Dkk and DGB are likely the same alignment.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:09 am
by Flavor Leaf
Right now, I’m thinking Marky, Jackson, VPB.

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:09 am
by Not_Mafia
I'm an Indecisive Doctor Voyeur, I feel like Marky's role has synergy with that