In post 4348, Menalque wrote:(Not sure if you’re also joking around with me but to be clear that was very much Not A Serious Critique and I really enjoyed ur modding! Those pagetops were won fair and square)
<3
There was one where I cheated, and you were the victim!
this is why i basically don't play anymore. i can't force myself to like playing scum and don't show up for it.
at least it helped us all trust-tell level read you as town LOL
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 1:52 pm
by borkjerfkin
In post 4354, SirCakez wrote:at least it helped us all trust-tell level read you as town LOL
that is a two way street
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 2:12 pm
by petapan
In post 4337, Menalque wrote:Also, thank you all for the feedback, I’m thinking I prob will try to develop the ideas further and post something in mafdisc
I think one interesting thing is that the hyper posting thing ties back to some degree into my argument — I think it’s easier to hyperpost when you’re enjoying things more and that’s not the cause in and of itself for why people don’t like scum. I thought prism’s points were interesting about why he disagrees, but I think the root reason may tie back into what I’m thinking of, or basically that even in games where you’re never going to lose mechanically you still have the consequences of that extending from people generally having played games like that a lot and having had the desire to play scum squeezed out of them. I think this game fits with that to an extent but not because of how the general trend manifested in the scumplayers so much as how it manifested in the townplayers. For instance, bork being basically cleared from early D1, infinity being very difficult to lim, salsa being considered out of scumrange immediately. Like I think you run into a major problem that unless you have a decent number of town players who are considered close in the respective strength of their town/scumgame you have a lot of people who become de facto clears even without mechanical clears. Not sure if I’m explaining this well, but I’ll get into it more in the bigger post to follow
i think this is just a problem with playing with a table where most people have meta on each other, which, for me, no thx. you did see late game as things got bad paranoia turned
i think in general this setup will probably always have a fairly narrow path to victory just by its nature as well but with only a handful of runs who knows
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:48 pm
by Salsabil Faria
I'm not gonna say
well played
mafia cause I'm salty!
But
gg
everyone!
Posted: Fri May 21, 2021 5:38 pm
by SirCakez
Salsa you had them nailed! Too bad you had to leave.
Scum team played brilliantly from start to finish. Mena's endgame was displaying emotional range that many scum players are afraid to display (hence a bunch of ez town clears in the current meta), skitter and Lilith were fucking menaces to society, Peta played his part fantastically, and Not_Mafia ate me for breakfast. Was a game I was glad to be a part of.
Posted: Sat May 22, 2021 3:10 pm
by Nachomamma8
I think daychat just makes games more enjoyable for scum period and will always advocate putting it in games. I agree that it pushes the setup to scum sided but don't think that's a bad thing. Kudos to baddies for pulling out the masterful win without it.
