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Post Post #4350 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:40 am

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The only thing that slightly bothers me is that he recognized that Titus and shea could be white knighting him with low info or inaccurate takes.

But you don’t get points for suspicion if you just remove it in the same posts.
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Post Post #4351 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:40 am

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Anya wagon analysis part II

Wheme looks townlean to me based on the votes around . pings me but Shea has way worse stuff than that and I still think he is town.

For Flea, I feel pinged by but I think I'm conf biasing a bit. doesn't feel like real reasoning. Other than that though there is not really much to look at, vote was around deadline. Null I guess based on this.

Well I guess there wasn't too much else to look at here, now to look at people shading me. Then I will give my final readlist.
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Post Post #4352 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:41 am

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This is very late murderkitty.
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Post Post #4353 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:43 am

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In post 4347, Dunnstral wrote:I believe you've indicated otherwise
No, I posted a half complete analysis of single point of data for which I identified two people's posting I didn't like. I haven't given a full list
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Post Post #4354 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:44 am

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In post 4276, unwnd wrote:3 days, 10 hours, 41 minutes
What's the rush to kill me Bell?
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Post Post #4355 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:45 am

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Your insistence you’re going to town yourself and keep dashing it. I feel like I’ve been strung along long enough tyvm.
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Post Post #4356 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:47 am

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I am literally in the process of producing content
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Post Post #4357 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:47 am

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You’re still stuck on the Anya wagon analysis. This rigidity, while you might hope is coming off as you genuinely believing what you’re saying: isn’t.
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Post Post #4358 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:56 am

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I'm doing exactly what I said I would do
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Post Post #4359 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:59 am

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Please do it in a way that doesn’t make me feel like your only bag of tricks is not to collapse like a house of cards when pressured as scum.
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Post Post #4360 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:00 am

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Also I want you to claim because I know you could come up with pretty interesting fake claims. At least, I thought so in that fairy game.

Anyway, gotta drive to work. Last day! And then a month of time off.
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Post Post #4361 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:03 am

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Spoiler: All important votes on me (that I could find)
In post 1587, Bell wrote:
In post 1586, MURDERCAT wrote:I didn't see anything out of the ordinary from Ircher tbh, but I also didn't read his posts that closely

pedit: No I'm gunna let the conf town at least get a wagon started
VOTE: Murderkitty
In post 1588, notscience wrote:VOTE: Murdercat
In post 3320, Bell wrote:VOTE: Murderkitty
In post 3330, Farkran wrote:VOTE: murdercat pending reassessment

I honestly thought anya was town and i doubt scum!chara would defend a partner so strongly + i understand why Chara would townread her

Flea also still a good vote for this day
In post 4009, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4001, MURDERCAT wrote:*snip*
Vote: Murdercat


Having Both Bell and I in the scum pile after yesterday is unforgivable, and the logic to do it is awful.
In post 4013, notscience wrote:VOTE: Murder

OH CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
In post 4035, Dunnstral wrote:VOTE: MURDERCAT
In post 4041, Sigmund wrote:VOTE: MurderCat


This might be the most suicidal play I've ever seen in mafia history.
In post 4149, WhemeStar wrote:VOTE: Murdercat

Blank votes r best votes
In post 4074, Chara wrote:i don't see why scum MC makes the decision to push LLD here, it just does not seem like a good idea for survivability.

but i don't find this analysis towny, either.

VOTE: murdercat

i'm sick so my emotional investment in this game is at an all-time low, but i'll try and present myself at least.
In post 4084, Guillotina wrote:VOTE: Murdercat

I'd love a Titus yeet but i can sheep my townreads too.
In post 4093, NDMath wrote:
In post 3984, Titus wrote:@NDMath,

Confirm you didn't regenerate SP at the end of the stratum.
I refuse.


I agree with the consensus opinion on murdercat, particularly regarding cat's bell read.
VOTE: murdercat
MurderCat Wagon (8/11): LLD, notsci, Farkran, Dunn, Sigmund, Chara, Guillo, NDMath
In post 4139, Guillotina wrote:I don't think my vote is pressuring ND

@LLD consider yourself a double voter

VOTE: Murdercat
In post 4215, Bell wrote:VOTE: Murderkitty
In post 4312, Guillotina wrote:VOTE: Murdercat
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Post Post #4362 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:04 am

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In post 4360, Bell wrote:Also I want you to claim because I know you could come up with pretty interesting fake claims. At least, I thought so in that fairy game.

Anyway, gotta drive to work. Last day! And then a month of time off.
I basically reclaimed that game :lol:
And no I'm not claiming

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Post Post #4363 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:07 am

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Scrolling through those votes, it's Chara and NDMath that stick out to me the most as scum hop ons as I think they are the most inconsistent with previous play. From my memory, I don't think either had that much to say about me.
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Post Post #4364 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:09 am

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In post 385, Chara wrote:not like we're gonna kill murdercat if he doesn't bring the heat d1.
Ok feel comfortable saying that is true about Chara as this was the only meaningful thing said about me prevote (obviously it was early game)
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Post Post #4365 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:10 am

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And I don't see anything from math either, not that there is much of anything at all anyway
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Post Post #4366 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:18 am

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{Bingle, Thestatusquo, Titus, Morph the Cat, Ircher, Sigmund, WhemeStar, notscience, Guillotina, Artemiana}
{White Fire, Flea the Magician, Farkran, Something_Smart}
{Dunnstral, Bell, NDMath, LLD, Chara}

I think my gut says something like this right now, I want to look at isos because this is really just gut check from looking at the names but I guess you are all free to kill me if you want because I might not post real content again until tomorrow. There is a world where I got white knighted and there is a world where sigmund is mafia doc, but for now this is ok.

VOTE: NDMath

For Titus
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Post Post #4367 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:27 am

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That reads list is like trying to die during the day on purpose
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Post Post #4368 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:31 am

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What's yours?
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Post Post #4369 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:37 am

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In post 3950, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 3886, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 3883, Chara wrote:hi LLD. i'm still thinking about sheeping you but i've had a second wind so it won't be blind. also i might be on your list so lmao.
I prefer this cause it makes me more able to read you. You are on my list to solve today to be sure but yeah this will help me sort you.
I would like to go over this list to solve before I commit to anything today

Right now I am at:
Morph town based on play
Chara feels town
S_S and Whemestar to the north of null
Guillotina towny
I at least have good feelings about TSQ right now, though this isn't a very strong read due to how fakeable I feel this can be
And Bell is towny
I have you as strong town and of course there's Bingle
And yeah, Titus makes sense as town to me based on their targets. I still think they're holding something back in their role claim and that I wasn't wrong about that.

Middle of the pack reads where I'm not taking a hard town or scum stance:
Farkran
Sigmund (They have the wagon situation and claim d1 in their favor)
Notscience
Artemenia
Flea (almost a scumread)

Leaving me with the following players as scum:
White Fire
MURDERCAT
NDMath
Ircher
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Post Post #4370 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:55 am

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You still think both me and Ircher are scum?
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Post Post #4371 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:56 am

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Can you go more in depth into your Chara read?
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Post Post #4372 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:02 am

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In post 4370, MURDERCAT wrote:You still think both me and Ircher are scum?
It's possible
MURDERCAT wrote:Can you go more in depth into your Chara read?
I think chara is a player who busses instead of doubles down on defense of a scum buddy
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Post Post #4373 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:24 am

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In post 4372, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 4370, MURDERCAT wrote:You still think both me and Ircher are scum?
It's possible
MURDERCAT wrote:Can you go more in depth into your Chara read?
I think chara is a player who busses instead of doubles down on defense of a scum buddy
This is the strong level of analytic reasoning that makes it so that my list means I am trying to die?
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Post Post #4374 (ISO) » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:36 am

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i'm not sure how much my input matters at this stage, but i feel good about the Murdercat wagon.

i don't find "i did the same thing in a towngame" at all convincing. most player scan copy their own town behavior, and usually your defense when the behavior is pointed out as scummy includes some kind of justification for why you've done it that way.
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