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Post Post #43650 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:35 am

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I'm getting really bored with sated WW to be honest. Sated Udyr is a nice refresher though.
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Post Post #43651 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:04 am

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I had a sated diana in one of the games I lost.
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Post Post #43652 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:04 am

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that seems questionable
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Post Post #43653 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:56 am

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Devourer Shen is actually very refreshing. It's strictly worse than cinderhulk, but it is fun. Stack health, and his passive + Dev gets very lulzy. Of course only for fun times not for srs bsns.
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Post Post #43654 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:11 am

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Espeonage wrote:Devourer Shen is actually very refreshing. It's strictly worse than cinderhulk, but it is fun. Stack health, and his passive + Dev gets very lulzy. Of course only for fun times not for srs bsns.


Agreed to all extents. It's fun but pretty bad.
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Post Post #43655 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:40 am

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I mean with Shen's awful clear times he wont be getting 30 stacks any time soon.
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Post Post #43656 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:54 am

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Holy fuck Elise is dumb right now.

Just played her support. 1.6 second stun at level 2 is very broken combined with her early damage.
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Post Post #43657 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:55 am

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just went 23/5/13 on ashe and still lost :(

got beat lategame by a better teamcomp
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Post Post #43658 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:59 am

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Had a similar experience with my Tristana. Was the only lategame scaling against a Riven, Kata and Lee wanting my booty.
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Post Post #43659 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:12 am

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BROseidon wrote:Holy fuck Elise is dumb right now.

Just played her support. 1.6 second stun at level 2 is very broken combined with her early damage.

She is stupid in top lane right now. They tried to buff her to current jungle standards and instead made her OP in other lanes. Almost certain the stun duration buff will get reverted or scaled back in 5.16
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Post Post #43660 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:35 am

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so..
galio is doing really well suddenly
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Post Post #43661 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:30 pm

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Suddenly?

Galio has always been extremely niche but extremely effective.
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Post Post #43662 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 1:32 pm

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BROseidon wrote:Holy fuck Elise is dumb right now.

Just played her support. 1.6 second stun at level 2 is very broken combined with her early damage.

She's back to her state where you can instalock her then say "fill"
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Post Post #43663 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:32 pm

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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
BROseidon wrote:Holy fuck Elise is dumb right now.

Just played her support. 1.6 second stun at level 2 is very broken combined with her early damage.

She's back to her state where you can instalock her then say "fill"


Pretty sure ADC and mid Elise are both bad.

But yeah that stun duration needs to get fucking nerfed.
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Post Post #43664 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:49 pm

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BROseidon wrote:
Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:
BROseidon wrote:Holy fuck Elise is dumb right now.

Just played her support. 1.6 second stun at level 2 is very broken combined with her early damage.

She's back to her state where you can instalock her then say "fill"


Pretty sure ADC and mid Elise are both bad.

But yeah that stun duration needs to get fucking nerfed.


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Post Post #43665 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:53 pm

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So elise....

http://matchhistory.oce.leagueoflegends ... /200474676

I don't play elise, but damn she is actually fairly easy to fit into my playstyle.

And strong as fuck, considering that was my first game on her in months.
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Post Post #43666 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:58 pm

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Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Suddenly?

Galio has always been extremely niche but extremely effective.


his win rate at top went from the 14th best to the very best after the most recent patch

also zed's 487 rp instead of 975 rp right now for some reason
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Post Post #43667 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:03 pm

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Psyche wrote:
Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:Suddenly?

Galio has always been extremely niche but extremely effective.


his win rate at top went from the 14th best to the very best after the most recent patch


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Post Post #43668 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:33 pm

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his play rate is extremely low
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Post Post #43669 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:38 pm

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Yeah just pointing out that with a amount of games so low, his win rate isn't really a massive factor.

It means this patch has mostly been people who likely main Galio, and not only that, it's possible it's luck over champion power.
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Post Post #43670 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:41 pm

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dont worry psyche im on your side i think galio is op too
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Post Post #43671 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:01 pm

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JasonWazza wrote:Yeah just pointing out that with a amount of games so low, his win rate isn't really a massive factor.

It means this patch has mostly been people who likely main Galio, and not only that, it's possible it's luck over champion power.


but that can't be quite right
since 57% of games analyzed involved players who had only played Galio 1-5 times
and their win rate in particular is 56%
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Post Post #43672 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:14 pm

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BROseidon wrote:
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BROseidon wrote:Holy fuck Elise is dumb right now.

Just played her support. 1.6 second stun at level 2 is very broken combined with her early damage.

She's back to her state where you can instalock her then say "fill"


Pretty sure ADC and mid Elise are both bad.

But yeah that stun duration needs to get fucking nerfed.

Nah mid elise is strong.

Edit: (In fact stronger than top seeing as her main problem is mana - a lot of top champions can sustain first few levels so she cant really poke them out of lane while most mids are super squishy and if you run full magic pen reds and quints you'll bully them out of lane fast)
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Post Post #43673 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:30 pm

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Psyche wrote:
JasonWazza wrote:Yeah just pointing out that with a amount of games so low, his win rate isn't really a massive factor.

It means this patch has mostly been people who likely main Galio, and not only that, it's possible it's luck over champion power.


but that can't be quite right
since 57% of games analyzed involved players who had only played Galio 1-5 times
and their win rate in particular is 56%


I'm pretty sure that's not how that graph works.

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Post Post #43674 (ISO) » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:42 pm

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