Mafiascum.net

I'm sheeping Benmage because he is a town read and I probably should have just Rez/Warded him and other confirmed townies each night instead of going off communing and wasting night actions. Definitely getting a new plan should I play in SAIV. Plum is lurky and has a history like that, yes.

Oh, I missed the point where EVERYONE had to.
Sure yeah.
TNM
Plum
kunk
Feysal (one of Feysal/nopoint to be sure.)
Nicodemus

Not sure about Triglav; has been very under-the-radar from my POV. Would need to reread. Lurking like this though; tough call since I would probably be lurking too if this wasn't my only active game.

Bare with me. I Need a day or so now that I'm back.

I'm guessing plum dies hito and sea kill...more to come obv.

Seacore wrote:Trilo, we'll kill Plum when we're ready, but as usual we want to get the night's actions organised.

Yeah I understand that. I'm not asking for a power wagon or anything. This is just between me and Andrius. I'm poking him to see what happens. I thought that was pretty clear. The whole "lets sort the night out" shouldn't come before scum hunting. And yes I am aware Andy is slated to die tonight.

Thanks for the list Andy. So you think cult rezzed townSeacore?

~Sotty

Trilo wrote: And yes I am aware Andy is slated to die tonight.

Glad to know talking to me isn't a waste of time.

I'd have to look at your wall again. I love tinfoils though, so.
I can see cult doing something like "killing their own member", but it would mean:
1) loss of NK
2) loss of Rez kit

Whether they did so on Seacore or not is something else. Who Rez'd Seacore again?

Oh.
TownSeacore, not CultSeacore.

/reading isn't tech

Why would they? I don't see what they stand to gain from Rezing someone they tried to kill. :S

Andrius,

Nico is the only player who claimed to have rez'd me.

That is what Trilo is asking, since you have Nico on your scum list, do you cult ritualled and rez'd me?

Oh.


Then... Nico is town? Unless big-shenanigans in which you and him are cult together, I don't see why Cult would claim a res on you like that.
In the Feysal/nopoint thing, yes, I can.
Here, not so much.

Also, Cult cannot target themselves with ritual, as they are unable to craft fetishes of cultists.

You can tell how well I am versed in the lore of the mechanics.

So they would have pretended to kill youcult and nicocult faked a rez. That's unlikely. I mean, unless they spent the night gathering rez kits and/or fetishes, then I can't really see it happening.

One of three things is possible

1. Nico and I are both cult, faked everything, decided to skip the Ritual for either deception or protection and spent the night doing other stuff

2) Nico is cult and the cult deliberately wasted their ritual in an attempt to confirm Nico as town

3) Nico is town and the cult tried and failed to kill me.

Personally, I think 3 is true, because they deliberately crafted two fetishes of me, passed one to me in an attempt to trick me into thinking I couldn't be ritualled last night (which worked, I was almost certain I couldn't be) So to do all that, 2) seems far fetched.

Re:
1. Most likely.
2. Actually, this is a much better idea, and more likely.
3. Probably what happened.
Yeah, I haven't tracked fetishes outside of myself (obv. one I received earlier).

But I hereby call #2, just so people can't say they duped me in the Dead QT.

I can just about buy Andy's not knowing that cult can't fetish themselves. Came in a series of quick posts, and I frankly didn't know that, either.

Ben wrote:I'm guessing plum dies hito and sea kill...more to come obv.

Let me know your final verdict on TNM, and who you want robbing, and I can whip up the new reference. I have a snow day tomorrow (and had one today; Nebraska has really low standards for calling snow days.) Ironically, this means LESS free time for me, not more, because with classes I only have ~5 hours of commitment a day whereas on snow days I play board games which run significantly longer. :p But it should only take a half hour or less to get this one updated.

I agree Andy's lack of understanding seemed a little genuine in that exchange. Regardless, it's not enough for me to want to stay my hand from the murder, although it makes me a little less confident I'm hitting scum. My gut also called spy town, so.

Hito, what do you think of my current action plan?

Don't like losing VP, and I disagree with how confirmed Nico is, but following absolute optimal play instead of weighing by my gut was the right move last time with Spy.

Thing is, I think VP is flipping town, AV is looking townier by the second, and I'm no longer 100% on Andrius. If we murder three townies tonight and have four stalks flying in the air tomorrow, we could be killing ourselves .

Still, I feel there's a good chance TNM is scum, so I'm okay with testing it, I guess. Though I've been wrong on the guess of "oh christ, please, no townie ever would think that's a good idea, right?", we can throw the dice once more.

I'd appreciate it if you posted the "stalk list" you think we should follow, Seacore.

My draft stalk list

Nicodemus
Benmage
Feysal
kunkstar7
Trilobite
xvart

xvart and Benmage are on there a) to beef up the list and b) because they need to die prior to end game, which is approaching faster the more we kill.

In the worst case scenario, if all the kill go through and none of them come up cult

Then 5 of these 7 people are cult. Not so bad.
Feysal
Iecerint
kunkstar7
Nachomamma8
Triglav
Trilobite
VasudeVa

hito wrote: Regardless, it's not enough for me to want to stay my hand from the murder, although it makes me a little less confident I'm hitting scum. My gut also called spy town, so.

Don't stay your hand. Cut me down, I understand my role in this game and if I need to die like a dog than so be it.

@ hito: Though I am confused as to how Nico isn't more confirmed. In order to insinuate him being town then Seacore would have to be cult OR they had to legitimately Rez their victim throwing away both a Rez kit and a Ritual.

And don't you dare turn this around. I am sooo looking forward to cuddling with AV after being condemned to death don't you guys dare pull a Fyodor Dostoevsky on me.

Seacore wrote: Then 5 of these 6 people are cult. Not so bad.
Feysal
Iecerint
kunkstar7
Nachomamma8
Triglav
Trilobite

Fixed.

Well, I told you guys it was better that I didn't reveal my target. Had I not, I would actually have a really decent chance at confirming myself tonight whereas now my fate hangs in the hands of cult, plus with VP being consistently rezzed, chances are that if he's town he would be rezzed anyway.

But no, apparently "lynch me tomorrow if I'm not confirmed" isn't good enough for you guys.

Buy yeah, you're probably right, announcing all the stalks in thread so cult have an adequate chance to interfere with confirmations is probably the right thing to do.

(I do understand why from your guys' perspective you thought I should claim, but it's still annoying).

*eerie silence is eerie*

Oh. Why is Seacore murdering me tonight instead of Iec again? Didn't people throw water onto the "Seacore is a dirty cultbag" theory? *mutter mutter*

Plz test Iec tomorrow night if not on me. Have him confirm his target last so cult can't capitalise on it and say they stalked the same person. Maybe I'm reaching just because I he was scum so I could live to fight another day. But I still worry!

Testing me will silence the critics, and I've got too many insanities to stalk again, I think that's the general consensus

AV don't you abandon me in the Dead QT.
Didn't Benmage want someone to stalk him?

I've added Benmage to my list of stalkees

Triglav is being instructed to stalk and kill?

Wait...we mean
Yes.

::sharpens knife::

Andy is town for sounding dumb? Meh.
VP is being killed to confirm tnm? Meh. Guess we should just stalk whoever the hell we feel because, hey, stalk list is tech to ignore. Meh, meh, meh.
Plum is scum. Yes.

I'm pretty sure Seacore's draft stalk list is of people that should be stalked, not stalkers themselves.

Unless of course, I am reading it wrong

~Sotty