8:4 Vanilla Nightless [TM2015] - GAME OVER

[ooba]

ZZZX, you said "if both Grey Ice and me flip town, never lynch ooba or mollie." and only Grey Ice has flipped after then.

That was literally D6.

So no, not a misrep.

[ZZZX]

because of the day deadline. @ooba.

ill just wait for my team mates to ask them a few things. cus this is pissing me off.

p-edit: that much is true, i am merely following mollie on your read. but i personally want to do this:
VOTE: metal

[ZZZX]

Ooba ill be honest btw, the reads agreed by me and ika (and gif but i havent talked to gif lately) are this simple

Town as hell: Mollie

Reaaly Reaaly town: Zar

Ooba: Ooba

Scum team: Metal/Alch

the only case is that if one of the scum team we wrote would flip town it would be you, but i dont expect me to do so.


@Mollie: If you trust that we are town then please sheep us on sonic, I am pretty sure of it. Also Ika is asking you if you rather want him to switch with me here so you two can discuss this face-to-face. tell me what you want about it.

[ZZZX]

Ooba if you are on I want to have a quick talk to you here. please tell me you are on.

[ooba]

Ooba if you are on I want to have a quick talk to you here. please tell me you are on.

I'm here but on mobile posting.

[ZZZX]

okey lets get some facts straight,

do you agree that zar is town first:?

also who are my possible partners here?

[ZZZX]

i think u said its alch/mollie before ... right?

[ooba]

okey lets get some facts straight,

do you agree that zar is town first:?

also who are my possible partners here?

I believe Zar is town. Some paranoia since the vla was bad - but I've got to make a stand somewhere.

Alch is a possible partner. Mollie was a possible partner but the unvote makes me doubt that.

[ZZZX]

okey lets get some facts straight,

do you agree that zar is town first:?

also who are my possible partners here?

I believe Zar is town. Some paranoia since the vla was bad - but I've got to make a stand somewhere.

Alch is a possible partner. Mollie was a possible partner but the unvote makes me doubt that.

okey so lets get this straight first,

Every single flipped town said mollie is town, and you as a person who palyed so much with mollie must know better mollie is town, and claiming otherwise is scum claiming here because its obv.

do you disagree about this point?

[ooba]

i think u said its alch/mollie before ... right?

quote="In post 4381, ZZZX"]i think u said its alch/mollie before ... right?[/quote]
My D5 call out was MS and Alch.

I have my doubts about that
- Alchs ill vote MS if you'll vote wgeurts with me tomorrow
- Alchs call out to MS who is voting you
Both could be extremely good scum play but it just makes me think I'm barking up the wrong tree.

[ZZZX]

i think u said its alch/mollie before ... right?

quote="In post 4381, ZZZX"]i think u said its alch/mollie before ... right?

My D5 call out was MS and Alch.

I have my doubts about that
- Alchs ill vote MS if you'll vote wgeurts with me tomorrow
- Alchs call out to MS who is voting you
Both could be extremely good scum play but it just makes me think I'm barking up the wrong tree.[/quote]
i ment partners to me.

but can you reply to my last post because there is a point i wana make and i will let you judge weither or not I got a point.

[ooba]

okey lets get some facts straight,

do you agree that zar is town first:?

also who are my possible partners here?

I believe Zar is town. Some paranoia since the vla was bad - but I've got to make a stand somewhere.

Alch is a possible partner. Mollie was a possible partner but the unvote makes me doubt that.

okey so lets get this straight first,

Every single flipped town said mollie is town, and you as a person who palyed so much with mollie must know better mollie is town, and claiming otherwise is scum claiming here because its obv.

do you disagree about this point?

I haven't had a great history of reading Mollie and vice versa. The posting also fit the southern bellies playstylr. It isn't obvious to me.

Also flipped town also called ABR and Ms the town bloc. So that really doesn't hold that much sway with me.

Grey didn't call Mollie town btw.

[ZZZX]

Grey didn't call Mollie town btw.

he didnt? idk

but generally nacho (who has a 97% read accuracy on mollie) said mollie is town,

also ika my team mate said mollie is town

and generally you wouldnt replace as scum to a slot where there is a player that never reads you wrong,

do you agree with me here?

[ooba]

Grey didn't call Mollie town btw.

he didnt? idk

but generally nacho (who has a 97% read accuracy on mollie) said mollie is town,

also ika my team mate said mollie is town

and generally you wouldnt replace as scum to a slot where there is a player that never reads you wrong,

do you agree with me here?

That was mollies reasoning. But I've already stated that nacho was scum readng Eddie fenix at that time and even if nacho has 95% accuracy in reading Mollie, it might have been worth taking th risk for the 5% and the WIFOM defense it presents.

Why does this feel like less about reading me or my Mollie reasoning and more like you want me to say something that upsets\angers\gathers me scum points with Mollie?

[ZZZX]

because i still have a point i wana make,

first of all can you check some facts about metal's vote pattern:

-Metal have never voted kagami/sotty, i might be wrong about sotty as i didnt check it recently but I am sure about kagami (until the nacho incident ofc)

-Metal have softly defended both kagami and sotty.

Are there any lies in the two facts above?

[ZZZX]

That was mollies reasoning. But I've already stated that nacho was scum readng Eddie fenix at that time and even if nacho has 95% accuracy in reading Mollie, it might have been worth taking th risk for the 5% and the WIFOM defense it presents.

the reason i believe in that is because i understand the reasoning as I am living it right now, I am resisting replacing with ika without any words since everyone is trying to put some wifom with some misrep about me and its pissing me off.

[ooba]

because i still have a point i wana make,

first of all can you check some facts about metal's vote pattern:

-Metal have never voted kagami/sotty, i might be wrong about sotty as i didnt check it recently but I am sure about kagami (until the nacho incident ofc)

-Metal have softly defended both kagami and sotty.

Are there any lies in the two facts above?

Metal voted sotty on D3. Would have probably voted kagami if he didn't invite to listen to my case.

Are you trying to convince me of metal might be scum? You forget my d4 case on him.

But yes - no lies there.

[ZZZX]

because i still have a point i wana make,

first of all can you check some facts about metal's vote pattern:

-Metal have never voted kagami/sotty, i might be wrong about sotty as i didnt check it recently but I am sure about kagami (until the nacho incident ofc)

-Metal have softly defended both kagami and sotty.

Are there any lies in the two facts above?

Metal voted sotty on D3. Would have probably voted kagami if he didn't invite to listen to my case.

Are you trying to convince me of metal might be scum? You forget my d4 case on him.

But yes - no lies there.

Okey so if this is right then lets take this from your point if view as town:

Town: you , zar , mollie
Remaining : Me,metal,alchem

generally here if you will use poe alchem will be scum. am I correct? (i doubt anyone same would think me and metal are in a scum team lol)

[ooba]

That was mollies reasoning. But I've already stated that nacho was scum readng Eddie fenix at that time and even if nacho has 95% accuracy in reading Mollie, it might have been worth taking th risk for the 5% and the WIFOM defense it presents.

the reason i believe in that is because i understand the reasoning as I am living it right now, I am resisting replacing with ika without any words since everyone is trying to put some wifom with some misrep about me and its pissing me off.

And I've never voted Mollie because of these facts.

IF Mollie is scum, ill catch her after catching her partner - but I'm not going after Mollie first. Also AD wouldn't approve.

[ZZZX]

That was mollies reasoning. But I've already stated that nacho was scum readng Eddie fenix at that time and even if nacho has 95% accuracy in reading Mollie, it might have been worth taking th risk for the 5% and the WIFOM defense it presents.

the reason i believe in that is because i understand the reasoning as I am living it right now, I am resisting replacing with ika without any words since everyone is trying to put some wifom with some misrep about me and its pissing me off.

And I've never voted Mollie because of these facts.

IF Mollie is scum, ill catch her after catching her partner - but I'm not going after Mollie first. Also AD wouldn't approve.

because i still have a point i wana make,

first of all can you check some facts about metal's vote pattern:

-Metal have never voted kagami/sotty, i might be wrong about sotty as i didnt check it recently but I am sure about kagami (until the nacho incident ofc)

-Metal have softly defended both kagami and sotty.

Are there any lies in the two facts above?

Metal voted sotty on D3. Would have probably voted kagami if he didn't invite to listen to my case.

Are you trying to convince me of metal might be scum? You forget my d4 case on him.

But yes - no lies there.

Okey so if this is right then lets take this from your point if view as town:

Town: you , zar , mollie
Remaining : Me,metal,alchem

generally here if you will use poe alchem will be scum. am I correct? (i doubt anyone same would think me and metal are in a scum team lol)

[ZZZX]

^no clue why it quoted and posted last 2 posts. pressed submit by msitake btw

[Alchemist21]

@Mollie, why did you unvote?

[ZZZX]

just a quick thing before im gone to think about

titus vca:
MS << metal
Zar << town
GI << town
Mollie << town

Ooba << town from your pov (arent you?)
ZZZX << town (you might say im scum if you want but whatever)
Wgeurts << town
if alch was town then from your point of view you see that people which chance to be scum are town. Metal sonic was put as super town after a vca while his vca was... suckingly bad. like really really bad.

in addition to this you can add the fact that metal is worshiping this vca like wtf even tho it has been really bad. this vca and kagami's read list were the same thing in terms of being bad and fake. which basically makes my case on alch. metal worshiping the vca however is what makes them both bad. no sane human would say metal sonic is a strong town read vca-wise. you might say he isnt scum at best if you want to or even use his posts but if you are doing a vca and put a shitty player vca wise at the top it doesnt go on that easily.

but other than the vca i have nothing against alchem. but metal here is purely scum.

[quadz08]

VOTECOUNT 7.8

ZZZX (2) - Metal Sonic, Ooba
Ooba (1) - Alchemist
Alchemist (1) - Zar
Metal Sonic (1) - ZZZX

Not Voting (1) - Pirate Mollie

With 6 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

Zar is V/LA until 5/5.
ZZZX is V/LA until 5/6.

Deadline is 5/6 at 6 PM Eastern, which is in (expired on 2015-05-04 18:00:00).

[quadz08]

So everyone knows - should it come to it, I will be using the deadline specifically noted in the votecounts. Even if I don't make a votecount precisely at the DL, any votecounts placed after the deadline expires (according to forum timestamps) will not be counted. 5:59 PM will count, 6:00 PM will not.