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In post 977, skitter30 wrote:Dats is not scum with pooky
Dc qnd dk are never scum with each other
I still think dk and tw are not scum with each other

- i'm p sure 461 is clearing of this pair
- game not balanced
- um the whole game
Pooky/bugs

Ss/tw
Ss/dats
Ss/bugs

Tw/dats
Tw/bugs

Dats/bugs

i'm always paranoid/wary of a strongman in setups with a bodyguard but that's a really stupid anti-synergy in 9p.
i'd then be systematically paranoid of a rb, which is an interesting synergy but easily scum-sided.
the mark mechanic is.... really interesting, and i'm actually lowkey indifferent as to whether there's a meaningful balancing diff between {bg, bomb, fn, names townies} vs. {bg, fn, names townies}.

probably the existence of another TPR / potential for clear by virtue of just being a TPR is more damaging than the self-protective aspect

In post 4376, the worst wrote:the mark mechanic is.... really interesting, and i'm actually lowkey indifferent as to whether there's a meaningful balancing diff between {bg, bomb, fn, names townies} vs. {bg, fn, names townies}.

I'm really struggling with whether FN/Bomb/BG makes more or less sense than FN/Bomb since the scum have a MFD role - I don't see how you are indifferent about this balance question.

Ok i will return to this like later or tom

assuming we're both town there's a reasonable chance /one/ of us fucks with scum actions but a v low chance they can't intuit the MFD is there for a reason and avoid fucking both of themselves.

at rand i think bomb is less likely to exist than bg but i'm... conspicuously biased
i don't think there's a massive ev difference no? i guess the setup where we're both town is a lot swingier?

well if the scum have a MFD and they dont know why they have a MFD then it would make sense the scum want to mass claim no?

actually it makes koba being scum more likely if they had a mfd ability because he would make a spreadsheet to figure out which tprs interact with a MFD

i really really really don't feel like them doing a pointless spreadsheet is AI

i thought it was AI for them being town in the beginning

just had like a reminisce to SUPP2017 mafia

scum!worst formatting people's rankings for no reason

scum!worst formatting holistic rankings so that scum could anticipate role interactions

scum!punreader spends an absolute tonne of time calculating rankings to understand how their role can interact with the list

large theme is pretty explicitly a different situation but like... as punreader would say and i really don't think it's distinctly scum indicative here but it's certainly not a towntell

effort doesnt equal alignment but a scum will cruise if the town is on the wrong track

You're talking about literally the first post of the game ...

oh absolutely yeah; tells are tells but putting a bunch of effort into something that could benefit either alignment is explicitly not ai

pedit: yes we are. it's both relevant and a fun thought exercise :c

if you're town and i'm town who r the scum?

first instinct would be raven/ss

why would raven try so hard to save me if she is a baddie?

i'm gonna be level w ya pooky i haven't put a lot of thought into that version of reality yet

In post 4377, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 4376, the worst wrote:the mark mechanic is.... really interesting, and i'm actually lowkey indifferent as to whether there's a meaningful balancing diff between {bg, bomb, fn, names townies} vs. {bg, fn, names townies}.

I'm really struggling with whether FN/Bomb/BG makes more or less sense than FN/Bomb since the scum have a MFD role - I don't see how you are indifferent about this balance question.

I’m struggling with this too, before we knew about the mfd thing it was obvious but both dsjstr townflip + mfd mechanic totally fucked up my solve. This is why if I’m convinced of nothing else, this game is definitely scumsided.

do you think the p value of me being town is 0?

In post 4278, Something_Smart wrote:c'mon skitter I shouldn't have to towncase myself. the raven/pooky scumcase practically writes itself.

SS is putting 0 thought into parsing me and is not even questioning his solve like you know, everybody fucking eose is. I liked koba too initially but I was convinced that Ank was locktown in a game where she flipped scum and town!SS would be expressing some doubt here. He KNOWS who the team is without a single scumflip, when it has been clearly pointed out to anyone who claims to be an expert at logical analysis that it makes no sense fo bugs to almost hammer his buddy on D fucking one!

i'm not a p=0 kinda duck

it's pretty low tho

its wierd to me why you have the p value so low ngl

i'm Exhausted

are you trying to convince me you're town and ... i'm scum?

In post 4394, Raven Branwen wrote:

In post 4278, Something_Smart wrote:c'mon skitter I shouldn't have to towncase myself. the raven/pooky scumcase practically writes itself.

SS is putting 0 thought into parsing me and is not even questioning his solve like you know, everybody fucking eose is. I liked koba too initially but I was convinced that Ank was locktown in a game where she flipped scum and town!SS would be expressing some doubt here. He KNOWS who the team is without a single scumflip, when it has been clearly pointed out to anyone who claims to be an expert at logical analysis that it makes no sense fo bugs to almost hammer his buddy on D fucking one!

Yeah, I think SS claiming to be this certain of who the scumteam is definitely scum indicative for him. In every single damn game I’ve played with town!him. he’s ALWAYS had some doubt. I don’t recall a single SS towngame where he had this much certainty on who any scum was - let alone the entire team sans flip. If this is town!SS here, I should seriously consider quitting playing mafia.