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4362 does make me worry murdercat has some kind of useful town pr he will gleefully watch flip as he is killed, and think yes, we deserved to lose him for being so wrong, but i'd hope that's not the case.

I mean that's kinda blackmailing the thread isn't it

Like in certain cases refusing to claim can be towny because it shows a lack of regard for one's life but here I'm just taking it as a claim of "my role is not strong enough to save me"

wouldn't that imply town to you?

I’ve caught up.

I dont think any of the two wagons will be a scum flip.

Ircher by tone, he’s felt genuine although a bit self absorbed but who am I to judge on that regard. I also feel that no scum is going to push on an innocent child like Ircher has, i do agree with him on Bingle, scumread me for it if you want but Bingle to me is just a slot whom i know is town who is willing to twist people’s words so his theories seem right. I wish the inno child was someone else but it’s what we got.

And Murdercat suspecting Sigmund and Flea resonates with me for obvious reasons, i still believe both of those are scum and im hoping for redcheck on one of them soon.

So as of now, i dont see myself committing to either wagon to be honest, it does not feel right.

It makes it somewhat more likely, since there's a nonzero chance scum-Murder with a weak role claims a strong role to buy time.

Im the type of player that votes because he is committed to yeet. Im not committed to sny of those two.

Ive scumread ircher most of the game but i feel i may be wrong by his later post, im willing to give himman extra day.

VOTE: Flea

In post 4337, Farkran wrote:Also i don't like ircher as today's elimination

My current scumreads: murdercat, ndmath, flea, titus

My concerns: chara, guillo, white fire, shea

Everyone else is fine to me as far as today is concerned

What’s your concern about me and shea?

Dunn, I won't lie, I'm pretty disconnected. From everything pretty much. I have multiple scumreads, which you've commented on, and I know a chunk of them are for naff reasons. thing is, I don't care. My reads are my reads and frankly I've seen worse by better.

I don't appreciate the "You won't kill me, you CAN'T kill me!" attitude from the kitty. But pretty sure I've seen him do this before -.-; can't remember what alignment he was at the time.


PEDIT: meanwhile guill is now giving out conflicting vibes

I think I misread... I probably did.

In post 4375, Chara wrote:4362 does make me worry murdercat has some kind of useful town pr he will gleefully watch flip as he is killed, and think yes, we deserved to lose him for being so wrong, but i'd hope that's not the case.

I don't do that, I play to win

In post 4376, Something_Smart wrote:"my role is not strong enough to save me"

Exactly

In post 4378, Guillotina wrote:Bingle to me is just a slot whom i know is town who is willing to twist people’s words so his theories seem right. I wish the inno child was someone else but it’s what we got.

If anything I’d characterize my play as not having pushed any significant theories.

Pics? Or is this just a “I’m mad Bingle thinks my TMI argument sucks”?

In post 4386, Bingle wrote:If anything I’d characterize my play as not having pushed any significant theories.

Of the "molds" for ICs, you fit the hands-off kind the most. Reminds me of when borkie draws the IC role. You're certainly no peta-assassin.

My brain isn't working.

I think someone was out hunting to late last night

VOTE: ircher

I'm not a fan of either leading wagon but its ircher over MC any day

List of people who are better elims than MC:

Dunn, Ircher, titus, notscience, something_smart.

I gave notscience a pass d1 because he was doing the PR which I think in general is more likely to come from town and also felt like he was putting real effort into putting content into those posts but he's done actual fuck all today and looking back at his d1 his vote on anya was very consistent with a bus.

Actually you know what time to be the change I want to see in the world.

VOTE: notscience

Of the two leading wagons ircher is way more likely to be scum imo and I'll vote there if we need me at deadline but I ain't voting murdercat. This continues to look like town murdercat to me.

In post 4339, MURDERCAT wrote:Ircher reads both at the front and end of the game and could have unvoted as part of catchup to avoid anya wagon gaining traction or could have made more of a point of pushing anya as part of the catchup, imo

I don't think this is a real read.

Ircher's vote on Anya came at the end of a catchup wall where he pointed out a faketownslip as probably scum AI and then called out a post of hers as simply bad then immediately quoted shea justifying it. This vote was a vanity wagon at the time, he was the only person voting there and both Flea and Sigmund had wagons on them, with <3 days before deadline. I don't see how vanity vote near deadline with two alternative wagons is townread material. 2109

He made a post roughly 500 posts later that didn't even mention Anya.

His next post was after VC 12 and the Sigmund claim (Literally 2 posts after the Sigmund claim, in fact). The wagons were tied at 9-9 Sigmund and Anya. Ircher quite simply wasn't around to have moved his vote off when the wagon was building and when the whole point of MC's analysis was the wagon, that rings particularly false to me.

(Note, I don't find Ircher's presence or lack thereof on the Anya wagon to be a reason to scumread him, just that selling it as a reason to NOT scumread him seems reachy.)

In post 4394, Bingle wrote:I don't see how vanity vote near deadline with two alternative wagons is townread material

Because it flipped scum?

Cousin doing better, able to hold fluids. Looking like permanent lost lung capacity though.

On game related matetrs, I don't really care if the claim won't save you, id like to have murdercat claim just his role's flavored name. That keeps the potential chart of abilities within a certain set, as we've seen from existing flips. It also means he's not fullclaiming.

I suspect that while scum have been told it's safe to full claim their role's name, there's less hero classes out there than enough for this entire game AND extras for safe claiming on top of that; meaning claiming something else as scum has a good chance of blowing up in your face due to a flavor counterclaim.

In post 4396, morph the cat wrote:just his role's flavored name

Dark Hunter

Something something goofball something something fake claim

I'm not interested in having anyone from the wagons yeterday wagonned today, for reasons I've explained about the possible TVT into Anya scum death.

Flea and Sigmund are off the table for today and possibly more but at least today.

Can someone explain how MC's responses have been townie? Like I know there's a feeling of "Well let's let him write" but nothing MC has done has been townie.

Conversely, Ircher has felt more like town with their response but their desire to kill Notty is.... weird? And some of their posts leave me thinking that it's not a bad fade even if they do flip town, because their night actions might be anti town.

But we can always come back to these two when we want, so I want people to do the following for me.