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Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:22 am
by Yeet
Malcolm is like starting to make me doubt my SR here, honestly

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:23 am
by Yeet
I would like maybe maybe consider switching to fire last minute but I just don’t think it’s practical

And I still don’t think Malcolm less scummy than fire yet

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:26 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 4375, Yeet wrote:Malcolm is like starting to make me doubt my SR here, honestly
Funnily enough I'm feeling the same with you a little tiny bit in the last page. My overriding theory at the moment is increasingly that mafia are either content with the state of the game or have expected/feared a VP elimination if VP is one of them and don't want to rock the boat too much. A fundamental thing to be looking for right now is players who are fine with where the game is at, players who aren't fine with that, and why this is the case. VP's post about Fire above for example makes a solid point - if someone is either contributing less or contributing in a different way, we should be thinking as to why this is the case. Personally I like that, for as much as you've suspected me, you're at least thinking about your reads and asking for my views when you could just aggressively push the slot.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:27 am
by MalcolmTucker
In post 4374, VP Baltar wrote:The big scum giveaway for fire is that he hasn't had any original ideas since like D1. He is clearly very smart, and smart people take actions outside the safety of what's popular. I could write a whole case about that, but I doubt that is worth my time at this point because the wagon isn't going to flip. When I'm dead, look at that very closely.
I need to have a proper look at their ISO later, I think Fire's definitely a clever player so very much not someone I'd want dead if town, but their reads during the initial heat on me felt very off in a way that felt out of character considering their approach to the game up until then.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:28 am
by Nero Cain
I think Malc is town. Voting out a scummy ascetic claim is a good day 2 elim but I think voting out Scorp would be p good too but I don't think there's enough time for that.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:28 am
by fireisredsir
In post 4374, VP Baltar wrote:The big scum giveaway for fire is that he hasn't had any original ideas since like D1. He is clearly very smart, and smart people take actions outside the safety of what's popular. I could write a whole case about that, but I doubt that is worth my time at this point because the wagon isn't going to flip. When I'm dead, look at that very closely.
i think my thoughts around the fua early day reaction were original. i think i was the first one to case you besides nero and he didnt really have a case, that's pretty original. i think the cape/malc idea that im currently working with is original. probs some other stuff idk im not gonna go back and look. if you mean "hasn't suspected anyone that hasn't already been suspected", then uh maybe thats cause everyone has been suspected at this point

i am blushing that you think i am very smart tho, idk if it's accurate but it's still appreciated

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:34 am
by Enchant
Who claimed ascetic?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:36 am
by Titus
I'm thinking VP but that's totally based on social dynamics. I'd like to review each ISO.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:37 am
by Titus
Happy birthday bro.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:37 am
by fireisredsir
right now tbh i am doubting myself immensely but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc since i have been thinking that it is for a while and have been thinking about most other players in terms of how they relate to those two slots. i know vp thinks that only maf are hesitant at the end but i know at least for me that is not at all the case, idk if I've ever voted someone out for non-mech-guilty reasons without some last minute doubts

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:39 am
by Enchant
VOTE: VP Baltar

Here we go

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:43 am
by Nero Cain
In post 4384, fireisredsir wrote:but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc
What about players like eyes or scorpios, galron?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:44 am
by Nero Cain
enchant?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:46 am
by Enchant
In post 4387, Nero Cain wrote:enchant?
Yea?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:48 am
by Nero Cain
In post 4382, Titus wrote:I'm thinking VP but that's totally based on social dynamics. I'd like to review each ISO.
this being a thing you hadn't done b/c?

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:59 am
by fireisredsir
In post 4386, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4384, fireisredsir wrote:but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc
What about players like eyes or scorpios, galron?
eyes probably, scorp maybe but meh. galron probably. i think someone said this already, maybe froggy, that if vp/malc are both town then it's probably just enchant and we've been distracted from it all day. titus maybe. yeet maybe.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:59 am
by MathBlade
In post 4383, Titus wrote:Happy birthday bro.
Happy birthday sis!

Sorry you got stuck with a scum role PM.

You can put doubt in that by voting VP or helping me wagon Galron (A)

(Disclaimer: may or may not remove enough doubt)

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:00 am
by MathBlade
Remember Galron is scum if/when I die.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:03 am
by Yeet
In post 4392, MathBlade wrote:Remember Galron is scum if/when I die.
Nope

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:03 am
by Yeet
In post 4384, fireisredsir wrote:right now tbh i am doubting myself immensely but legitimately cannot figure out what the maf team composition would look like if it's not in VP/malc since i have been thinking that it is for a while and have been thinking about most other players in terms of how they relate to those two slots. i know vp thinks that only maf are hesitant at the end but i know at least for me that is not at all the case, idk if I've ever voted someone out for non-mech-guilty reasons without some last minute doubts
Why are you doubting yourself immensely

Don’t you think scum is in the wagons

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:05 am
by VP Baltar
In post 4380, fireisredsir wrote:if you mean "hasn't suspected anyone that hasn't already been suspected", then uh maybe thats cause everyone has been suspected at this point
This is what I mean. You're not really pushing people that don't have other people pushing harder. It gives you cover

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:06 am
by fireisredsir
In post 4394, Yeet wrote:Why are you doubting yourself immensely

Don’t you think scum is in the wagons
i did and now i am doubting that. why am i perpetually paralyzed by self-doubt and indecision? idk i can't afford a therapist ill get back to you in 5 or 6 years

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:07 am
by MathBlade
In post 4396, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 4394, Yeet wrote:Why are you doubting yourself immensely

Don’t you think scum is in the wagons
i did and now i am doubting that. why am i perpetually paralyzed by self-doubt and indecision? idk i can't afford a therapist ill get back to you in 5 or 6 years
If VP wasn’t scum he’d have been hammered by now.

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:09 am
by fireisredsir
In post 4395, VP Baltar wrote:This is what I mean. You're not really pushing people that don't have other people pushing harder. It gives you cover
i think i almost always look where other people are looking, and then try to look deeper to see if i think they're right or not. that's like, what i do, it's just the main way i know how to play the game. p sure i did that on day 1 too and i will do that on day 3

Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:15 am
by Titus
In post 4389, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 4382, Titus wrote:I'm thinking VP but that's totally based on social dynamics. I'd like to review each ISO.
this being a thing you hadn't done b/c?
Been busy with birthday celebrations.