Signs and Void (Game Over) [TM2015]

[Titus]

Bane UT

Oversoul, your questions have already been answered.

UT is a good bane.

Got the flu, staying off the thread today.

[Untrod Tripod]

Why not?

that's uh

not an answer

I mean I don't really care if you explain or not look who's asking you, I was just curious if you had some sort of concrete reason

[Untrod Tripod]

UT is a good bane.

no I'm not

nor are you imo

[Oversoul]

Oversoul, your questions have already been answered.

By everyone on the wagon?

Did I miss that?

UT, well, I would bane you UT but I just saw Fferyllt and Nacho agreed with a scumread on you so I am going back to old habits

[hitogoroshi]

VC 104 (Minor Day 2, VC 6)

Bane:

Target player may not submit actions this Major Night.

(4)

mastin2:

vezokpiraka, TellTaleHeart, singersigner, Untrod Tripod

(ChannelDelibird, Oversoul, Gammagooey)

[L-5]
(4)

Espeonage:

ActionDan, Cheetory6, Espeonage, ChannelDelibird [L-5]
(2)

Titus:

Gammagooey, Oversoul
(2)

Untrod Tripod:

Formerfish, Titus

(Oversoul)

(1)

singersigner:

mastin2

(Titus)

(1)

Aronis:

Shadoweh

(3)

No Bane Vote:

Aronis, Bulbazak, Deasvail

(Untrod Tripod, Formerfish)

With 17 players alive it's 9 to Bane. Minor Day One ends on Monday, May 4th at 8:00 PM CST.

Minor Day One Deadline

(expired on 2015-05-04 20:00:00)

[Aronis]

Bane: Mastin

[Formerfish]

Why?

[Untrod Tripod]

UT, well, I would bane you UT but I just saw Fferyllt and Nacho agreed with a scumread on you so I am going back to old habits

if you're going to try to mislynch me at least own up to it as your own terrible read, coward

[Cheetory6]

if you're going to try to mislynch me at least own up to it as your own terrible read, coward

To be fair, the only reason I'm not voting to bane you is also because you're who I'm most interested in lynching atm.

yoghurts said you were probs town cheet and I'm looking for someone to work with. You down?

I mean sure? What do you have in mind specifically?

[Shadoweh]

Hi Formerfish! You don't remember playing with me, do you?
I usually advocate vigs on lurkers I can't read, see the touhou game I just played where I badgered my friend into vigging sxGaiden. Do you think Aronis is town, or are you just cognitively aware that your lack of presence + Marquis's fluffposting make you a really good lynch too?

Oversoul, my point is that everyone is detecting/tracing. There is no reason for someone to be doing nothing even if they're a VT.

[Cheetory6]

Vezok could you give me your read on CDB, more of your thoughts on mastin and can you update if you're still reading singer/Empireslot as strongly as being town?

[Cheetory6]

Shadow, I asked you to comment on ffery's townAroniscase.
3836

[ChannelDelibird]

Shadoweh, do you think it makes sense to block someone whom I could track? Aronis seems like an unhelpful choice. Better off Baning one of his buddies, if he is scum, so that he's likelier to have to risk getting caught doing something.

[Cheetory6]

You're ignoring this CDB:

>_> or there was a proactive blocking of results on Aronis, or he's immune to tracks, or your sign was just detected since at least 3 people have correctly chosen a sign so far just out of claimed people. Deli, have you forgotten that even the goons should be Detecting and/or Tracing rather then no-actioning? The fact that you returned -nothing- makes it much more likely something went wrong.

I think it's actually kind of weird that you're so confident that you think you being able to target Aronis will be reliable at this point.

[Cheetory6]

Like, it's assuming you're not being roleblocked and you're not being killed tonight, which both seem like things that are super fucking weird for you as a claimed PR to not be taking into account here.

[Untrod Tripod]

To be fair, the only reason I'm not voting to bane you is also because you're who I'm most interested in lynching atm.

yeah and you're taking responsibility for your terrible read

that's very different

[Cheetory6]

Hey UT tell me whether you think CDB is scum who just fucked up.
Because that's where my head's at right now and if you could have any kind of meaningful dialogue in this game I might reconsider wanting to lynch you.

[ChannelDelibird]

You're ignoring this CDB:

>_> or there was a proactive blocking of results on Aronis, or he's immune to tracks, or your sign was just detected since at least 3 people have correctly chosen a sign so far just out of claimed people. Deli, have you forgotten that even the goons should be Detecting and/or Tracing rather then no-actioning? The fact that you returned -nothing- makes it much more likely something went wrong.

I think it's actually kind of weird that you're so confident that you think you being able to target Aronis will be reliable at this point.

I'm not saying any of those things are impossible, just that it seems weird to close down an avenue where I at least know that "no result" wouldn't be because I submitted the wrong sign. I'm not sure I agree with Shadoweh's ultimate conclusion that "no result" makes it more likely that something ballsed up. For one thing, Detect and Trace aren't Major Night abilities, right? So if Aronis were vanilla or a goon, that'd be a reason not to see him go anywhere.

PEDIT: As if that was a slip. Come on, Cheetory.

[ChannelDelibird]

Missing from that post: "...but I agree that it's certainly possible that things have gone wrong. I've even talked about some of them Today."

[Untrod Tripod]

why are so few people (just Cheetory, from quick read of overnight posts) talking about how infuriatingly antitown mastin was at the end of Yesterday?

I've been talking about this for a long time. come on mang.

Hey UT tell me whether you think CDB is scum who just fucked up.
Because that's where my head's at right now and if you could have any kind of meaningful dialogue in this game I might reconsider wanting to lynch you.

maybe I'm completely missing something, but how did he fuck up?

[Cheetory6]

It certainly feels like a slip to me.
I would never, as a PR, assume that my results weren't being tampered with if I was a claimed role and I wouldn't assume that my results would be useful if scum could just kill me, therefore you thinking that Aronis should be off the table for today because of that looks fake as hell to me.

[ChannelDelibird]

I haven't assumed that. I just think it's probably suboptimal to shut down a line of inquiry that could be slightly more trusted than others on account of knowing that any tampering doesn't come from a 50-66% chance of just guessing arbitrarily wrong.

[ChannelDelibird]

Not to mention that the main thing I wanted to do was to have Shadoweh talk some more.

[Cheetory6]

Shadoweh, do you think it makes sense to block someone whom I could track? Aronis seems like an unhelpful choice. Better off Baning one of his buddies, if he is scum, so that he's likelier to have to risk getting caught doing something.

How is this not assuming that?

[Cheetory6]

Like k. Maybe you were trying to get Shadow incorporated into the conversation with the question in that post.
But the last two sentences are clearly illustrating that you think that you're probably not going to get roleblocked or shot.