So what if scum know what pr's/wonders are built what's the big deal if we know what were built and it becomes public less room for fake claims.
So you were opposed to town and scum having equal access to which PRs are available the next Day, but you want scum to know exactly which PRs town has?
You can plan with science if scum know what pr's were built what are they gonna do choose a dif nk target? What could they possibly do?
Hunt for town PRs. There's also no town benefit to it (unless we could also get Natural and build former wonders that way).
In post 4395, PeregrineV wrote:For each ask these quesitons.1. How does this help town?2. How does this help scum?3. Does this help scum MORE than it helps town?If the answer to 3 is yes, then you vote NONE, no matter what the answer to #1 is.
Exactly.
Theory spam. Having a failsafe at the end of the game for non chosen wonders is good. Culture is bad. Letting scum know what PRs are in play...why?
So what if scum know what pr's/wonders are built what's the big deal if we know what were built and it becomes public less room for fake claims.
So you were opposed to town and scum having equal access to which PRs are available the next Day, but you want scum to know exactly which PRs town has?
You can plan with science if scum know what pr's were built what are they gonna do choose a dif nk target? What could they possibly do?
Hunt for town PRs. There's also no town benefit to it (unless we could also get Natural and build former wonders that way).
Scum can't fake claim with Cult.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:10 am
by Vecna
VOTE: None
Culture; more advantage to scum
The other thing; might result in people maybe trying to build allready constructed wonders in the dark.
So what if scum know what pr's/wonders are built what's the big deal if we know what were built and it becomes public less room for fake claims.
Really, I find this hard to believe. How come you and Math cannot get in sync?
I have no idea what you mean.
You are opposing me and Math constantly, yet you're claiming the only guy buddying you is Vecna or Mickey? That doesn't seem consistent with the gamestate. Vecna agrees with Titus head.
Like, would you two lynch Caesar or ABR today?
6 pedits. Jeez.
Buddying is trying to get on my good side. Do you see anyone trying to get on my good side by buddying besides those 2 cause I didn't. I don't want to lynch ABR and I want Caesar to post more before I think on lynching him
~Maria
Where's the incentive for scum to talk if you'll never lynch them if they remain quiet? You were willing to lynch Yuri and beeboy for being quiet allegedly yesterday.
You are seriously suggesting we play the entire game as vanilla because scum could go back and get a prior power.
What's next? Hey guys how about we deny Town the power to vote b/c scums could hammer a townie?
This is seriously getting old.
~~Math
You know that vanilla do the most scumhunting, right?
Meh. PR is not alignment of amount of scumhunting to me.
Denying Town tools doesn't make Town inherently better.
~~Math
How is town being denied anything?
Arts -- Denied who knows what in lynch powers
Sciences -- Ability to plan wonders
Natural -- Ability to grab old unbuilt wonder after mass claim that could help us break the game or if someone lied about picking one up.
Cultural -- Meh not seeing too much use in that.
Repeatedly voting none disregards what Town can do.
We win when we are positive and think we CAN do things.
~~Math
For each ask these quesitons.
1. How does this help town?
2. How does this help scum?
3. Does this help scum MORE than it helps town?
If the answer to 3 is yes, then you vote NONE, no matter what the answer to #1 is.
1) How do PRs help Town? Is this a serious question?
2) Town coordination (but not group think) is how Town wins! Town blocks = group think Town collaboration = wins
Beeboy lynch group think due to apathy
Planning and transparency always help Town more.
The two none votes IMHO are ridiculous and anything would be better than none.
~~Math
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:10 am
by Spiffeh
In post 4356, The DEO wrote:Yuri slipping the noose is a joke. Looked at the votes. Pretty much screams Spiffeh scums. Just needing Titus to see it.
If Mathblade continues to play the game as if she's already guessed the scum team I'm going to start ignoring their posts.
So what if scum know what pr's/wonders are built what's the big deal if we know what were built and it becomes public less room for fake claims.
So you were opposed to town and scum having equal access to which PRs are available the next Day, but you want scum to know exactly which PRs town has?
You can plan with science if scum know what pr's were built what are they gonna do choose a dif nk target? What could they possibly do?
Hunt for town PRs. There's also no town benefit to it (unless we could also get Natural and build former wonders that way).
Scum can't fake claim with Cult.
True but scum have an entire nightphase to plan around exact PRs. You're just scum. Shit.
NoticeMeSenpai. There could also be scum in ABR/Yuri, but I don't feel confident about either.
Elaborate on all of these.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:12 am
by Drixx
In post 4334, Leonshade wrote:The likelihood that a wonder from a previous age wasn't built is low, so Natural isn't likely to be that useful anyway. Slight scum advantage since they have a bit more info as to what was built.
I went and looked and I see no indication that scum have more info as to what was built. Care to point me to what I overlooked?
VOTE: Natural
I did NOT succesfully build the Pyramids. Someone else snatched it. I'll just wait for an explanation.
So what if scum know what pr's/wonders are built what's the big deal if we know what were built and it becomes public less room for fake claims.
So you were opposed to town and scum having equal access to which PRs are available the next Day, but you want scum to know exactly which PRs town has?
You can plan with science if scum know what pr's were built what are they gonna do choose a dif nk target? What could they possibly do?
Hunt for town PRs. There's also no town benefit to it (unless we could also get Natural and build former wonders that way).
Scum can't fake claim with Cult.
True but scum have an entire nightphase to plan around exact PRs. You're just scum. Shit.
What can they plan around? I would think a smart scum team would plan around the pr's already yes? they see a doctor one was built "Oh no!" but they don't know who it is
~Maria
In post 4334, Leonshade wrote:The likelihood that a wonder from a previous age wasn't built is low, so Natural isn't likely to be that useful anyway. Slight scum advantage since they have a bit more info as to what was built.
I went and looked and I see no indication that scum have more info as to what was built. Care to point me to what I overlooked?
VOTE: Natural
I did NOT succesfully build the Pyramids. Someone else snatched it. I'll just wait for an explanation.
In post 4395, PeregrineV wrote:For each ask these quesitons.1. How does this help town?2. How does this help scum?3. Does this help scum MORE than it helps town?If the answer to 3 is yes, then you vote NONE, no matter what the answer to #1 is.
Exactly.
Theory spam. Having a failsafe at the end of the game for non chosen wonders is good. Culture is bad. Letting scum know what PRs are in play...why?
In post 4334, Leonshade wrote:The likelihood that a wonder from a previous age wasn't built is low, so Natural isn't likely to be that useful anyway. Slight scum advantage since they have a bit more info as to what was built.
I went and looked and I see no indication that scum have more info as to what was built. Care to point me to what I overlooked?
VOTE: Natural
I did NOT succesfully build the Pyramids. Someone else snatched it. I'll just wait for an explanation.
Shocker.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:13 am
by Albert B. Rampage
So Drixx, did you look into how scummy Vecna was during the night?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:13 am
by Leonshade
How about nobody other than Drixx claims whether or not they built a wonder? Treestump being the exception.
In post 3772, Akane and Nebby wrote:In all seriousness, ABR shows up and now we're running around with our heads chopped off?
Town was super fucking cohesive, we had Yuri at L-1, everything is great, until he shows up.
In post 3669, Akane and Nebby wrote:This town went fucking crazy and nuts and not focused on Yuri once ABR started doing things...
Timing is kinda conveniant actually.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:14 am
by Spiffeh
In post 4413, Drixx wrote:I did NOT succesfully build the Pyramids. Someone else snatched it. I'll just wait for an explanation.
You did literally nothing yesterday. This shouldn't be a surprise to you.
Whoever built Pyramids should not claim it.
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:14 am
by Sondam
A smart scumteam is already gonna plan around the fucking wonders if we make it public info we have no room for fake claiming by scum *facedesk* morons
Oh thank god Drixx didn't get pyramids
~Maria