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In post 4398, the worst wrote:are you trying to convince me you're town and ... i'm scum?

how do u read that out of my posts this page

I would love to see someone do an SS metadive because I’m extremely confident I’m not wrong about this. SS having 0 doubt about who the scumteam is is not town indicative for him and how he doesn’t think to re-evaluate after Skitter confirms that it doesn’t make any sense for bugs to accidentally hammer his partner and this solve is coming from the mech expert.

i'm not really sure what your solve is if we're both town

this olive branch feels.. spiky

Like I said, the scumcase writes itself.

Skitter if you can't see how bad faith Raven is posting in on the previous page, I don't know what to tell you.

In post 4403, Something_Smart wrote:Like I said, the scumcase writes itself.

Skitter if you can't see how bad faith Raven is posting in on the previous page, I don't know what to tell you.

MY bad faith? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! What good faith are you showing? Are you even trying to solve me? No. Are you re-evaluating that you’re Pooky/me scumteam makes 0 sense? Also no. What towngame do you refuse to re-evaluate anything.

All you keep doing is shading me while ignoring all evidence proving your solve is bullshit.

oh no, one person voted for another, they can never be scumbuddies and it makes 0 sense. whatever will we do?

In post 4403, Something_Smart wrote:Like I said, the scumcase writes itself.

Skitter if you can't see how bad faith Raven is posting in on the previous page, I don't know what to tell you.

If you seriously think this makes even an iota of sense, you’re either scum ot on drugs, so which is it?

also, this is good faith. I'm not trying to manipulate skitter or sell her on anything, because I don't have to. I am just providing my perspective, and I'm willing to engage her if she doesn't understand why I feel the way I do.

You are confusing good faith with high effort. Effort is not indicative of alignment.

In post 4405, Something_Smart wrote:oh no, one person voted for another, they can never be scumbuddies and it makes 0 sense. whatever will we do?

Alrighty then, good you’ve got this entire game wrapped up there Sherlock.

In post 4406, Raven Branwen wrote:If you seriously think this makes even an iota of sense, you’re either scum ot on drugs, so which is it?

I'm not really sure what you're expecting to accomplish by doing this. But I would expect it to harm your cause and thus help mine, so by all means, keep it up.

In post 4407, Something_Smart wrote:also, this is good faith. I'm not trying to manipulate skitter or sell her on anything, because I don't have to. I am just providing my perspective, and I'm willing to engage her if she doesn't understand why I feel the way I do.

You are confusing good faith with high effort. Effort is not indicative of alignment.

So now you’re telling me what I’m thinking? How are you possibly acting in good faith here? You are making 0 effort to try and parse me but you nevertheless have the audacity to accuse me of doing that to you?

In post 4409, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4406, Raven Branwen wrote:If you seriously think this makes even an iota of sense, you’re either scum ot on drugs, so which is it?

I'm not really sure what you're expecting to accomplish by doing this. But I would expect it to harm your cause and thus help mine, so by all means, keep it up.

I’m telling you your solve makes no sense and that town!you would at least be questioning that. It’s your complete unwillingness to even consider that you might possibly be wrong here, which is why I think I’m not wrong. It’s not like you’ve actually examined my arguments, critically examined them and rejected them. You haven’t even considered the possibility that you could be wrong. Everyone else is doing that except for you, so tell me again how you think I’m acting in “bad faith” here?

how do you know that I'm not considering the possibility that I might be wrong?

also, how does the you/Pooky team not make sense? you haven't really shown that in any satisfactory way.

In post 4409, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4406, Raven Branwen wrote:If you seriously think this makes even an iota of sense, you’re either scum ot on drugs, so which is it?

I'm not really sure what you're expecting to accomplish by doing this. But I would expect it to harm your cause and thus help mine, so by all means, keep it up.

I’m saying that your arguments don’t make logical sense, I think that’s obvious and from everything I know about playing with town!you. you critically evaluate everything but here you’re just content to push a solve with holes as big as craters and not even rethink it. What towngames have you ever done this? And you know we’re buddies without either of us flipping?

And you haven’t given a shred of evidence to back anything up. Your entire argument is I’m scum arguing in bad faith after you won’t even consider the possibility that your solve could be wrong, so how are you getting me acting in “bad faith” from that?

In post 4412, Something_Smart wrote:how do you know that I'm not considering the possibility that I might be wrong?

In post 4278, Something_Smart wrote:c'mon skitter I shouldn't have to towncase myself.

the raven/pooky scumcase practically writes itself.

This doesn’t look like it to me.

In post 4413, Something_Smart wrote:also, how does the you/Pooky team not make sense? you haven't really shown that in any satisfactory way.

If you weren’t deathtunnelling me here, do you honestly think scum!me would defend a buddy like this? Because that would be suicide. Can you at least agree with that much?

In post 4415, Raven Branwen wrote:This doesn’t look like it to me.

I mean nowhere did I claim I had perfect confidence in the scumcase. I have a fair amount of confidence in it, certainly way more than I have in any other team. It's lylo, there isn't room for error, why would you not be expecting me to pick the highest probability team and throw my weight behind it?

Or better yet, if you want to do meta, go find a time where I was town in lylo and didn't pick what I thought was the most likely team and commit to it.

In post 4416, Raven Branwen wrote:If you weren’t deathtunnelling me here, do you honestly think scum!me would defend a buddy like this? Because that would be suicide. Can you at least agree with that much?

It's definitely not suicide to defend your buddy in lylo. Usually scumteams have a plan for which exact lylo they will win in, so if your plan is to win right here, then you are correct to launch all your firepower at me.

In post 4414, Raven Branwen wrote:I’m saying that your arguments don’t make logical sense

I've barely made any arguments! I've mostly just tried to tear down yours and Pooky's.

That's kind of my whole angle here; that I shouldn't have to explain why you and Pooky are scum, because it should be self-evident.

You are asserting that the you/Pooky team has holes in it without any evidence.

Then when I ask for evidence, you argue that different things are impossible to come from a team of the two of you... again, without any evidence. Have you never seen scum bus each other on day 1? Have you never seen scum defend each other in lylo? That seems hard to believe.

In post 4416, Raven Branwen wrote:

In post 4413, Something_Smart wrote:also, how does the you/Pooky team not make sense? you haven't really shown that in any satisfactory way.

If you weren’t deathtunnelling me here, do you honestly think scum!me would defend a buddy like this? Because that would be suicide. Can you at least agree with that much?

Everyone is gunning for Pooky, yes? I’m not a freaking idiot, so if I know my buddy’s going down is inevitable, I bus them here, I don’t double down.

In post 4417, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4415, Raven Branwen wrote:This doesn’t look like it to me.

I mean nowhere did I claim I had perfect confidence in the scumcase. I have a fair amount of confidence in it, certainly way more than I have in any other team. It's lylo, there isn't room for error, why would you not be expecting me to pick the highest probability team and throw my weight behind it?

Or better yet, if you want to do meta, go find a time where I was town in lylo and didn't pick what I thought was the most likely team and commit to it.

I am not aware of this, I can only go by the games I’ve played with you and I’ve never seen you be this certain based on my experience with you.

In post 4418, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 4416, Raven Branwen wrote:If you weren’t deathtunnelling me here, do you honestly think scum!me would defend a buddy like this? Because that would be suicide. Can you at least agree with that much?

It's definitely not suicide to defend your buddy in lylo. Usually scumteams have a plan for which exact lylo they will win in, so if your plan is to win right here, then you are correct to launch all your firepower at me.

Because you’re deathtunnelling me and you’ve been doing that since D2. You said if dsjstr flips scum, it has to be either me or Pooky despite it making 0 sense he was my buddy. Where was I acting in bad faith on your slot before you did that? In fact, the opposite was true.

In post 4420, Something_Smart wrote:You are asserting that the you/Pooky team has holes in it without any evidence.

Then when I ask for evidence, you argue that different things are impossible to come from a team of the two of you... again, without any evidence. Have you never seen scum bus each other on day 1? Have you never seen scum defend each other in lylo? That seems hard to believe.

Of course I have but I’m arguing context, which you keep ignoring. If Pooky’s my buddy and it’s inevitable he’s going down, I do everything possible to avoid following suit. This is why your argument doesn’t make sense. And once you realize that than you have to ask yourself why scum!me doesn’t try to save the only slot that townlocked me on D2.