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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:16 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 4394, Medea the Alien wrote:Scum are multitasking, as in factional plus individual role, sure. But unless the corrupting thing is a "lol BONUS factional ability not in the role PM" thing, it's got to be in lieu of other actions (as in could be a joat thing) so anyone with proven night actions is cleared from corrupter status.
theoretically couldn't snarky just be doing a maybe poorly thought out gambit?
can LLD be scum if it's with dunn, and thus not even need a demon cop since scum would know who they demoned?
i dont think either of these things are the case but technically?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:16 am
by Snarky Fishes
I should point out that Bell hasn't seen or signed on to my "plan" and he may think it sucks.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:16 am
by Lukewarm
I think aa9 is town spiffeh :/
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:18 am
by Snarky Fishes
In post 4400, Here There Be Dragons wrote: In post 4394, Medea the Alien wrote:Scum are multitasking, as in factional plus individual role, sure. But unless the corrupting thing is a "lol BONUS factional ability not in the role PM" thing, it's got to be in lieu of other actions (as in could be a joat thing) so anyone with proven night actions is cleared from corrupter status.
theoretically couldn't snarky just be doing a maybe poorly thought out gambit?
can LLD be scum if it's with dunn, and thus not even need a demon cop since scum would know who they demoned?
i dont think either of these things are the case but technically?
What would be the point of this poorly thought out gambit?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:19 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 4399, Lukewarm wrote:I kind of really like the manatee plan. It feels like we are in Elo, but there are just too many people alive. Normally at Elo, even a random shot is 50%. But we are at Elo with 2 scum in 11. Shooting for scum feels really bad to me, and I think I would much prefer the game state with some flips. Even town flips. Have so few flips makes it hard for me to feel confident in much of anything.
That feels like the only path towards getting this game to a state where I feel like I can get a handle on it.
i mean isn't there only a 1 in 12 chance that manatee is a backup to me if we want to get like that
i agree it's more likely she's a backup to us than anyone else but i also would argue that some of those 11 are not likely to be scum so our odds are better on that front as well
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:19 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 4403, Snarky Fishes wrote: In post 4400, Here There Be Dragons wrote: In post 4394, Medea the Alien wrote:Scum are multitasking, as in factional plus individual role, sure. But unless the corrupting thing is a "lol BONUS factional ability not in the role PM" thing, it's got to be in lieu of other actions (as in could be a joat thing) so anyone with proven night actions is cleared from corrupter status.
theoretically couldn't snarky just be doing a maybe poorly thought out gambit?
can LLD be scum if it's with dunn, and thus not even need a demon cop since scum would know who they demoned?
i dont think either of these things are the case but technically?
What would be the point of this poorly thought out gambit?
literally no idea!
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:20 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4395, Medea the Alien wrote:Got it. That gives a little wiggle room but i'm still loathe to act and get fancy on it instead of trying to solve the corrupter with ffery's "lol nah to us becoming demon bruv" plan.
Can't demonize a corpse.
I think we might be able to lock the scum team out of the alt win con.
If 4 people die human, they HAVE to win the normal way.
Titus has died human.
We have ceph (or anyone human actually) self kill on the fishes. That is 3
We kill a human tomorrow, and we broke the alt win con
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:21 am
by Here There Be Dragons
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:21 am
by Medea the Alien
In post 4406, Lukewarm wrote: In post 4395, Medea the Alien wrote:Got it. That gives a little wiggle room but i'm still loathe to act and get fancy on it instead of trying to solve the corrupter with ffery's "lol nah to us becoming demon bruv" plan.
Can't demonize a corpse.
I think we might be able to lock the scum team out of the alt win con.
If 4 people die human, they HAVE to win the normal way.
Titus has died human.
We have ceph (or anyone human actually) self kill on the fishes. That is 3
We kill a human tomorrow, and we broke the alt win con
This is NOT the time to feed S_S to the woodchipper.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:22 am
by Spiffeh
In post 4406, Lukewarm wrote:I think we might be able to lock the scum team out of the alt win con.
If 4 people die human, they HAVE to win the normal way.
Titus has died human.
We have ceph (or anyone human actually) self kill on the fishes. That is 3
We kill a human tomorrow, and we broke the alt win con
Can someone run the numbers for me
If we are at 7 demons right now does this still work or would we still auto lose tonight?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:22 am
by Spiffeh
(I'd still prefer to just hit scum/the corruptor but the above might be worth exploring)
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:22 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Vote: Annie Edison
Vote: Snarky Fishes
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:23 am
by Medea the Alien
As in, Annie Edison hammers snarky fishes?
Or as in, that's your solve.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:24 am
by Medea the Alien
In post 4397, Annie Edison wrote:The void filled by Medea paranoia has been filled. This is my roundabout way of saying no, I don’t have a case, I just feel like now is the time to be like tenet Brian.
Time to explain this!
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:25 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:25 am
by Lukewarm
This is the first plan that has felt good to me all day.
Elo/night before Elo feels impossible with this many people alive, and I would like to try and shut down the alt win con x.x
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:26 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 4415, Lukewarm wrote:This is the first plan that has felt good to me all day.
Elo/night before Elo feels impossible with this many people alive, and I would like to try and shut down the alt win con x.x
i am pretty sure your plan doesn't work because of math?
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:27 am
by Lukewarm
In post 4409, Spiffeh wrote: In post 4406, Lukewarm wrote:I think we might be able to lock the scum team out of the alt win con.
If 4 people die human, they HAVE to win the normal way.
Titus has died human.
We have ceph (or anyone human actually) self kill on the fishes. That is 3
We kill a human tomorrow, and we broke the alt win con
Can someone run the numbers for me
If we are at 7 demons right now does this still work or would we still auto lose tonight?
If we are at 7, I think the plan only works if manatee turns into a desharder, and can help us
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:27 am
by Spiffeh
Ok then I hate that plan
Even though we are likely at six demons it's basically auto-lose otherwise
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:28 am
by Spiffeh
I need to exit the thread for awhile I can't think about mechanics this much it makes my head spin
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:28 am
by Snarky Fishes
I object to one of our strongest townreads suiciding on us.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:28 am
by Lady Lambdadelta
1. Annie Edison
2. ArcAngel9
3. Dunnstral
4. Here There Be Dragons
5. Lady Lambdadelta
6. Lukewarm
7. ManateeGal
8. Medea the Alien
10. unwnd
11. Snarky fishes
12. Spiffeh
1+11
10+11
1+10=
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:30 am
by Medea the Alien
In post 3692, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I am unable to relay the response bork gave me to my query due to site rules against quoting moderator communication but I assure you it was quite humorous
Going back to read the progression after the super saint claim form pooky. I'm not sure why there wasn't an instant CC as time went on and like "POOKY WILL FUCKING FEEL THE BURNING WRATH OF OUR ANCESTORS" but It's moot at this point and I don't even know why I'm making this post :/
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:30 am
by Lukewarm
Well, I want to bet the game on one of 3 things being true (any of them would make this plan viable:
-The dragons are scum
-The fishes are scum
- manatee will become a desharder (what I think is most likely to happen btw)
And if none of those are true, and we lose then I think I will just yell at bork in the post game
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2021 9:32 am
by Here There Be Dragons
In post 4423, Lukewarm wrote:Well, I want to bet the game on one of 3 things being true (any of them would make this plan viable:
-The dragons are scum
-The fishes are scum
- manatee will become a desharder (what I think is most likely to happen btw)
And if none of those are true, and we lose then I think I will just yell at bork in the post game
4407?
