Mafiascum.net

In post 4396, Cephrir wrote:I hate to admit this thing that doesnt support my views but if tet were killed for reads, he wasnt a big fan of std or andante

In post 4397, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4395, The Three Bears wrote:Ircher calls 3 of 4 flipped town, scum.
It's highly likely that neutral scum is all town though if there was one that wasn't, i'd say it's mastina since I have also heard massy is more inactive as scum. I think neutral town is all town.
So the whole scum team is in leaning town, null and the people not put in the list.

-noraa

Ircher knew he was going down at this point and that post is pure unadulterated wifom and should be ignored

In post 4400, The Three Bears wrote: no one ever said tet was killed for reads.

-noraa

In post 4397, Cephrir wrote:

In post 4395, The Three Bears wrote:Ircher calls 3 of 4 flipped town, scum.
It's highly likely that neutral scum is all town though if there was one that wasn't, i'd say it's mastina since I have also heard massy is more inactive as scum. I think neutral town is all town.
So the whole scum team is in leaning town, null and the people not put in the list.

-noraa

Ircher knew he was going down at this point and that post is pure unadulterated wifom and should be ignored

In post 4405, catboi wrote:also preflipping people as green is LMAO

In post 4400, The Three Bears wrote:

In post 4396, Cephrir wrote:I hate to admit this thing that doesnt support my views but if tet were killed for reads, he wasnt a big fan of std or andante

no one ever said tet was killed for reads. i think tet was killed bc scum team thought they were a pr. i'll have to reread but that's the vibes i get.

-noraa

In post 4402, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:tellin u ceph. we gonna need to duke this out 1 way or the other cuz theres no way we both make it 2 endgame n ur faction has a fun time whatever ur faction is. like 1 of us is goin down either way.

In post 1832, Dunnstral wrote:I'm seconding wanting to know why we should vote for Ircher

In post 4350, Save The Dragons wrote:if anyone wants me to say anything more than "i disagree with everything presented here" to roden's case on me let me know!

In post 4350, Save The Dragons wrote:if anyone wants me to say anything more than "i disagree with everything presented here" to roden's case on me let me know!

In post 4357, The Three Bears wrote:Grendel and thewayitends, pressure consistent throughout the day. barely any counter wagons. basically just get flashwagoned.
ircher: ten different wagons get brought up. lots of resistance
Dunn: wall cases on five different people, ten counter wagons

-noraa

In post 615, Ircher wrote:

In post 500, mastina wrote:For the record, this is bad modding as it has a direct influence on the game, namely?

I'm conftowning both LLD and Three Bears from it.

I agree it's (rather minor imo) mod influence, but this is just silly.

In post 522, Roden wrote:I hate the RVS analysis posts. They made my eyes glaze over and it just read as information-over-analysis to me. It's typically a town tell to me, but there's a thin line between actually town telling and just LAMIST serious analysis posts.

I don't understand. How are they, in this specific instance, not a town tell. What makes Greeting's posts different from the general case of information instead of analysis?

In post 539, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Like a scumslip doesn't have to be fuckin binary it can be on a sliding scale and tbh probably usually IS on a sliding scale

No. People on this site treat scum slips as meaning >99% chance of coming from scum, so it is effectively binary. If it isn't that confident an identifier, then a different term should be used (or perhaps no buzzwords at all).

In post 549, Greeting wrote:So much confidence and putting up a whole readslist after so much meme-ing and fluff that was in this game?

This is unfortunately what mastina does at the beginning of the game. I wouldn't put much stock into its accuracy, but it's not alignment indicative for mastina.

In post 566, Roden wrote:I don't think LLD and Greeting are aligned because I town read one and scum read the other.

That seems circular to me. What are you town reading about Lady Lambdadelta?

In post 591, Roden wrote:That isn't what I said. Scum reading someone no matter what they say or do, and explicitly making it clear that that's what you're doing, isn't a real attempt at reading somebody.

That isn't what happened? I think Cephrir and Save the Dragons have done a good job outlining their reads on you and explaining why it makes you scum. I don't fully agree with the conclusions, but that doesn't discount that they have valid points. (My main qualm with immediately jumping to Roden scum here is that doubling down isn't solely a scum trait. Town do it often too. I know there are other aspects like the Greeting read, but I just don't feel it is definitive enough evidence towards scum!Roden.)

In post 599, Roden wrote:I always find it funny when previous scum buddies see my playstyle and thought process in detail, then see me act the complete opposite in another game and accuse me of being scum lol.

By funny I mean tiring.

Posts like these aren't helping your case, but on the flip-side, I would expect most scum to try to be more agreeable, so again, it's kinda net neutral.

In post 1004, Ircher wrote:

In post 773, Save The Dragons wrote:roden's using ate "woe is me" and needling using words like "inane" to try and attack the points against him without actually refuting those points. it makes it look like they weren't legit points to begin with. instead of answering, he doubles down on this narrative.

how are people like "well i guess that could come from town"

Because townies have done this in the past. Have you ever played with Robbnva/Jake From State Farm before? He used to do this kind of stuff all the time regardless of alignment. To be clear here, I think it does come out as slightly +scum equity, but it is very marginal as townies are equally keen to double down when they are wrong.

In post 2810, Roden wrote:I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.

In post 4414, Save The Dragons wrote:can you enumerate all the lies i've told

In post 4415, Save The Dragons wrote:i see one in your post and it's because i changed my mind between post 560 and post 3172 because new information came to light

In post 4416, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't understand how you can't be bussing both days for your other "lie" i told

like? just because tet doesn't think it's scum theatre doesn't mean that it's not?

In post 4421, Roden wrote:You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong.

In post 4421, Roden wrote:i see one in your post and it's because i changed my mind between post 560 and post 3172 because new information came to light

You mean like Ircher's red flip? Lol. You kept saying even after he flipped that you expected him to be town.

In post 4421, Roden wrote:You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong. You went from "you ignored each other" to "well you ignored each other at first and then bussed him at the last second" to "idk why you can't be bussing him both days". Like you're blatantly just trying to fit the pieces together to frame my actions as scummy. I'm scum if I didn't bus and I'm scum if I did. I'm scum if Ircher flips green and I'm scum if he flips red. You aren't trying to read me.