In post 4355, Frogsterking wrote:Mathblade are you willing to vote Ceph for your VCA info or whatever?
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Are you sure that on some level you aren't reacting emotionally to having a 0% success rate on determining my alignment?
I am pretty poor at hunting everyone so I fail to see your point here?
I think there is something quirky about the way you read the game which causes you to be <random in the initial stages of the game, and then become rapidly >random as the game progresses, and the consequence is that other players are sometimes less willing to listen because of the bad early reads.
Rather than be resigned to it I think you can try to overcome it. One way you can try to overcome the early game weakness is by trusting others. For example, it's blatantly clear to me that Ceph is attempting to pocket you now by telling you what (he thinks) you want to hear.
That’s what I was doing then I got ran up for not hyperposting.
Well keep trying IMO. It's not unusual to experience setbacks when you do the right thing, especially if it's a change from the usual.
In post 4381, MathBlade wrote:So hence if people disagree and elim Roden it has to have scum backing which proves my active scum theory.
What is the active scum hypothesis?
That scum are among the active players.
Generally town left to its own devices find each other eventually or have a wagon by now. 2 non RVS wagons (me and Roden) in 150-200 pages is not a sign of healthy town.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:24 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4397, Frogsterking wrote:IMO Ceph is blatantly attempting to pocket MathBlade right now as well as flamebaiting everyone.
In post 4363, Dancing Puppets wrote:generally you want to do the exact opposite of whatever town!Math advocates.
it's true that math is wrong sometimes but we can evaluate his points on a case by case basis rather than writing him off entirely
I know he’s wrong on us if you even care about that and I still don’t see why Johnny’s scum? So tldr, your d1 kill list sucks.
you can disagree with someone without saying their opinions suck
im certainly not about to spend the game ignoring mathblade even if he does turn out to have had a single incorrect read on you
I said specifically that I think your d1 kill list sucks. I’m not saying that but he did tr two scums in PYP. It’s true he sometimes does have good reads like in the mini normal. All I know is his read on us is wrong.
Correction 3. I TR’d wallflower too
If you’re going to mention a game at least be honest about it
And she was also scum. so what’s your point?
If you’re going to cite games, cite them correctly.
Slow down and make a factually correct point
You tr HEM, Enchant and Wallflower correct? The reason I left her out was that you were eventually correctly sr her, so what did I say that was “factually incorrect”?
You’re making me look better than I was like a backhanded compliment.
I don’t remember scumreading Wallflower while alive. Maybe I did but I am pretty sure she was a scumread
In post 4363, Dancing Puppets wrote:generally you want to do the exact opposite of whatever town!Math advocates.
it's true that math is wrong sometimes but we can evaluate his points on a case by case basis rather than writing him off entirely
I know he’s wrong on us if you even care about that and I still don’t see why Johnny’s scum? So tldr, your d1 kill list sucks.
you can disagree with someone without saying their opinions suck
im certainly not about to spend the game ignoring mathblade even if he does turn out to have had a single incorrect read on you
I said specifically that I think your d1 kill list sucks. I’m not saying that but he did tr two scums in PYP. It’s true he sometimes does have good reads like in the mini normal. All I know is his read on us is wrong.
Correction 3. I TR’d wallflower too
If you’re going to mention a game at least be honest about it
And she was also scum. so what’s your point?
If you’re going to cite games, cite them correctly.
Slow down and make a factually correct point
You tr HEM, Enchant and Wallflower correct? The reason I left her out was that you were eventually correctly sr her, so what did I say that was “factually incorrect”?
You’re making me look better than I was like a backhanded compliment.
I don’t remember scumreading Wallflower while alive. Maybe I did but I am pretty sure she was a scumread
You were in dead thread but still tr Enchant.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:28 am
by Bell
Alternative hypothesis: Corwin said they were dealing with family problems. Which resulted in significant push back to pressure there. This was supported by them taking the angle of taking offense for activity pushing.
There’s a significant difference in treatment between players and blah blah blah. I don’t see where this discussion would go since it’s easy to break down reasoning and harder to build up my own. It’s also, probably not a good use of my time to try to negotiate your thoughts here.
In post 4355, Frogsterking wrote:Mathblade are you willing to vote Ceph for your VCA info or whatever?
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Are you sure that on some level you aren't reacting emotionally to having a 0% success rate on determining my alignment?
I am pretty poor at hunting everyone so I fail to see your point here?
I think there is something quirky about the way you read the game which causes you to be <random in the initial stages of the game, and then become rapidly >random as the game progresses, and the consequence is that other players are sometimes less willing to listen because of the bad early reads.
Rather than be resigned to it I think you can try to overcome it. One way you can try to overcome the early game weakness is by trusting others. For example, it's blatantly clear to me that Ceph is attempting to pocket you now by telling you what (he thinks) you want to hear.
That’s what I was doing then I got ran up for not hyperposting.
Well keep trying IMO. It's not unusual to experience setbacks when you do the right thing, especially if it's a change from the usual.
In post 4381, MathBlade wrote:So hence if people disagree and elim Roden it has to have scum backing which proves my active scum theory.
What is the active scum hypothesis?
That scum are among the active players.
Generally town left to its own devices find each other eventually or have a wagon by now. 2 non RVS wagons (me and Roden) in 150-200 pages is not a sign of healthy town.
@Math
How many scum do you believe we can expect are in the active posters? I think there is at least one.
In post 4397, Frogsterking wrote:IMO Ceph is blatantly attempting to pocket MathBlade right now as well as flamebaiting everyone.
do you disagree that math's posts are worthy of being read? otherwise, can you kindly cease inserting yourself into my lines of questioning?
Aka flamebaiting, Ceph attempting to create town v town bickering etc.
im literally just asking you to stop discrediting while im in the midst of a conversation that has nothing to do with you and little to do with your point
In post 4355, Frogsterking wrote:Mathblade are you willing to vote Ceph for your VCA info or whatever?
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Are you sure that on some level you aren't reacting emotionally to having a 0% success rate on determining my alignment?
I am pretty poor at hunting everyone so I fail to see your point here?
I think there is something quirky about the way you read the game which causes you to be <random in the initial stages of the game, and then become rapidly >random as the game progresses, and the consequence is that other players are sometimes less willing to listen because of the bad early reads.
Rather than be resigned to it I think you can try to overcome it. One way you can try to overcome the early game weakness is by trusting others. For example, it's blatantly clear to me that Ceph is attempting to pocket you now by telling you what (he thinks) you want to hear.
That’s what I was doing then I got ran up for not hyperposting.
Well keep trying IMO. It's not unusual to experience setbacks when you do the right thing, especially if it's a change from the usual.
In post 4381, MathBlade wrote:So hence if people disagree and elim Roden it has to have scum backing which proves my active scum theory.
What is the active scum hypothesis?
That scum are among the active players.
Generally town left to its own devices find each other eventually or have a wagon by now. 2 non RVS wagons (me and Roden) in 150-200 pages is not a sign of healthy town.
@Math
How many scum do you believe we can expect are in the active posters? I think there is at least one.
Depends on which elim unfortunately. I’d guess 2 at least. One in US timezones and one not at minimum.
So you like his takes but still sr him? I don’t follow?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:36 am
by MathBlade
In post 4413, Bellaphant wrote:Also wtf is an 'active poster '? Basically a third of the game have 100-200 posts but there are a bunch wildly above that and a good cluster below .
Someone in the wildly above side influencing the game.
In post 4355, Frogsterking wrote:Mathblade are you willing to vote Ceph for your VCA info or whatever?
I don’t think Ceph is scum. I would need someone to talk with me about why he is. I think you’re a much better vote to figure out what happened at day open.
Are you sure that on some level you aren't reacting emotionally to having a 0% success rate on determining my alignment?
I am pretty poor at hunting everyone so I fail to see your point here?
I think there is something quirky about the way you read the game which causes you to be <random in the initial stages of the game, and then become rapidly >random as the game progresses, and the consequence is that other players are sometimes less willing to listen because of the bad early reads.
Rather than be resigned to it I think you can try to overcome it. One way you can try to overcome the early game weakness is by trusting others. For example, it's blatantly clear to me that Ceph is attempting to pocket you now by telling you what (he thinks) you want to hear.
That’s what I was doing then I got ran up for not hyperposting.
Well keep trying IMO. It's not unusual to experience setbacks when you do the right thing, especially if it's a change from the usual.
In post 4381, MathBlade wrote:So hence if people disagree and elim Roden it has to have scum backing which proves my active scum theory.
What is the active scum hypothesis?
That scum are among the active players.
Generally town left to its own devices find each other eventually or have a wagon by now. 2 non RVS wagons (me and Roden) in 150-200 pages is not a sign of healthy town.
@Math
How many scum do you believe we can expect are in the active posters? I think there is at least one.
Depends on which elim unfortunately. I’d guess 2 at least. One in US timezones and one not at minimum.
So you like his takes but still sr him? I don’t follow?
i didn't say i liked his takes, this is all stemming from your assertion that we should do the opposite of whatever town math advocates as an attempt to discredit his suspicion of you
i happen to agree with his opinion about your alignment but that has nothing to do with any reasons he has given for it, and i am not pairing the two of you anyway so that does not bother me
Well that you eventually came around on Wallflower but not Enchant. Yesn it’s true you were still tr her before you died but you realized she was scum afterwards.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:38 am
by Rad
@DP (Nancy) Do you have any recent games where you're town I can look at? Large would be ideal but any is fine.
So you like his takes but still sr him? I don’t follow?
i didn't say i liked his takes, this is all stemming from your assertion that we should do the opposite of whatever town math advocates as an attempt to discredit his suspicion of you
i happen to agree with his opinion about your alignment but that has nothing to do with any reasons he has given for it, and i am not pairing the two of you anyway so that does not bother me
He is literally the only one who didn’t have a completely bs reason for sr us, so I think you might actually be scum for this and are attempting to chain miselims.
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:40 am
by Dancing Puppets
In post 4420, Rad wrote:@DP (Nancy) Do you have any recent games where you're town I can look at? Large would be ideal but any is fine.
In post 4413, Bellaphant wrote:Also wtf is an 'active poster '? Basically a third of the game have 100-200 posts but there are a bunch wildly above that and a good cluster below .
Someone in the wildly above side influencing the game.