Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 5:52 am
I rather lynch Bald over Espy.
vote:Bald
i think prohawk was suggesting it's inconsistent for voided to vote baldy after including espeonage and not baldy in his previous want-to-lynch lists.harakiri wrote:Unless I'm misinterpreting something
What the absolute fuck is this? You are acting like scum are stupid and they can't read what's going on. Lynchs aren't "random" If none of their people were heavily suspected then why not? It would give them the two mislynches needed to win.In post 4354, Lost Butterfly wrote:because there's a chance Nero might have claimed scum in order to communicate with the other team if he thought he was busted. Now, tomorrow's decision is much more stressful than it needs to be. I still believe that the govern is a very, VERY strong hint that Nero is scum, though, particularly given the scumteam who used it would have no way at all of predicting where the lynch would go otherwise. And they're wasting the chance to protect one of their own instead.
There is little town motivation to advertising and bidding on Gov. (I can see why town would want to, but the scum usage for it outweighs the town benefits)In post 4433, Nero Cain wrote:but govering me has more or less secured my lynch tomorrow, an atleast Nacho, (baring a Eagle scum flip) knowing it'll be LYLO, wants a QL on me which basically gives scum a free path to victory 'cause if I get qled then we won't be talking about scum at all. Where if I was mislynched today then there is a chance that folks might rethink their reads for the next day.
If you tools can't see the scum motivation in that then you should head back to newbie games.
Have you even said why?
These people need to choose between Esp or Bald, and quickly.In post 4430, Magua wrote: Not Voting (2): zMuffinMan, Harakiri
Why'd you unvote?
He's pointing out reasons why I should be voted tomorrow, I think. It'd be suicidal to try and start a wagon on me with only 3 hours or so left at the time he posted.In post 4423, Harakiri wrote:Unless I'm misinterpreting something, ProHawk is asserting that Voided is trying to start a counterwagon to Eagle with those posts, but Prohawk himself is voting for Espeon. Or did I get that mixed up..?
Suck scintillating arguments.In post 4440, Lord Mhork wrote:Fuck off Harakiri
Just an expression.In post 4441, Voidedmafia wrote:P-EDIT: Cash in townpoints?
ok? No one is talking about it being used by town so good job fluffing up your post?In post 4435, Voidedmafia wrote:There is little town motivation to advertising and bidding on Gov. (I can see why town would want to, but the scum usage for it outweighs the town benefits)
There is no town motivation for not outing that you have won Gov, either from N0/N1 (whenever it was first up for auction).
There is no town motivation in governing Nero right as he's about to be lynched AND not admitting they did it. Doubly so if you A.) happen to be town, and B.) said person ctually has a townread on Nero and thought that you could get away with not saying you did it; if that scenario is actually true and both Bald or Esp and then Nero flip town and we lose, then fuck you, whoever you are.
The correct town move would've first to have said that you won Gov. The next correct move would've been to first threaten to use it (I'd think they're stupid for doing that, but it's a lot townier than using it covertly). And if the usage was just a panic move, then the person who used it should've outed the very INSTANT they could post. Nothing about Gov's usage gives me townvibes
So if there's no chance of it being used by town, and if we agree that scum using it to secure two mislynches, while possible, is a big longshot that is IMO more likely to fail than succeed, what's your point in arguing about Garuda? He's being overzealous in the QL dept. (which honestly is worrying me), yes, but if that overzealousness is town zealousness then isn't this being a little counterproductive?In post 4444, Nero Cain wrote:ok? No one is talking about it being used by town so good job fluffing up your post?
Why do you think its more likely to fail than succeed? My point is that scum would want exactly what Empcho wants, a ql. My town flip today would have atleast given information and with that information you guys would have went into LYLO and THOUGHT about who is scum. By goving me, we go into lylo the next day (barring a scum flip today) with a shitload of players biasly thinking that I'm scum AND wanted me dead regardless. Though this is the same thing I got onto Muffin about, scum don't necessarily have to push anything. Even though I have more experience then you clowns, you guysIn post 4445, Voidedmafia wrote:So if there's no chance of it being used by town, and if we agree that scum using it to secure two mislynches, while possible, is a big longshot that is IMO more likely to fail than succeed, what's your point in arguing about Garuda? He's being overzealous in the QL dept. (which honestly is worrying me), yes, but if that overzealousness is town zealousness then isn't this being a little counterproductive?In post 4444, Nero Cain wrote:ok? No one is talking about it being used by town so good job fluffing up your post?
Besides, all we have to do tomorrow is not. QL. Which I don't think we should even do in the first place, no matter how guaranteed Nero's lynch is.
I may not be able to respond before DL.
Taking the simple option of an assured Nero lynch today and going from them (especially with last night's NK and the as-of-yet-unknown N0 NK that hasn't shown up yet being a potentially night-time double-whammy) sounds more likely to get a victory than banking on town getting a mislynch today and then mislynching you tomorrow, honestly.In post 4447, Nero Cain wrote:Why do you think its more likely to fail than succeed?
That's part of why I'm against just simply QLing you tomorrow. Even if your lynch is set in stone tomorrow, there's no reason to just go "okay, lynch someone today, QL Nero tomorrow, and...then what?" We'll get nothing about what happened during the night, no chance to discuss the lynch that just happened, no way to adjustIn post 4447, Nero Cain wrote:My point is that scum would want exactly what Empcho wants, a ql. My town flip today would have atleast given information and with that information you guys would have went into LYLO and THOUGHT about who is scum. By goving me, we go into lylo the next day (barring a scum flip today) with a shitload of players biasly thinking that I'm scum AND wanted me dead regardless.
My point is that getting on Garuda for wanting you QL'd is looking just as counterproductive as Garuda suggesting the QL.In post 4447, Nero Cain wrote:but its not like my point was really hard to understand at all so you claiming that my point was counterproductive is kinda lol.